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[Spliff_Craven]

I initially wrote this article to a player what was having low framerates {He recommended I put it in a thread}. I had the same problem multiple times and achieved many resoloutions.

I have an I7 unlocked quad core unlocked {= 8 logical cores} with 24 gig ram and 2 560TI's in SLI I should be able to run anything.

It was as frustrating as all hell.

I'll give you a breakdown of how I resolved the various circumstances in which it occurred.

• Ran out of HDD space before Christmas. Sounds obvious but easily overlooked if you have lots of games on your system. So I had my HDD cloned to a larger one.
  
• Had some drivers out of date. Update windows, video drivers, etc.
  
• I needed to to a complete un-install/reinstall of Hawken
  
• Updated my Antivirus to a newer version
  
• Ran a spyware/Malware scan
  
• Doublechecked my firewall exceptions for my router and my software.
  
• Defragged my HDD.
  
• Cold restarted my router to clear it.
  
• Had to join friends in my timezone.{West Coast} Joined buddies in East and it was laggy and choppy
  
• Turned off resource hogs: 3rd party chat clients like Skype, Mumble, Teamspeak, etc... Killed any open processes and windows to free up ram/paging and CPU memories
  
• Hawken Servers bog out too! Sometimes it isn't anything you can do. but after they restarted the servers it ran better. They do stuff serverside {I call it art and upgrades} that can make it choppy or kills my framerates.
  
• Avoid choke points with High Physx such as AA silos or intense combat.
  
• Check your Grafix card ram. I have 1 gig per card.
  
• I also found PHYSX Particles needed to be turned off or on basic. The NVIDIA max particle crashes me. I discovered this issue before the latest patch as I Tweaked Hawken to allow me to test it.
  
• Ran in to a POWERSUPPLY problem in my girlfriends tower.{Duelcore 939fx, 1 gig Radeon 5570 grafx card, 4 gig physical MB ram}. It was crapping out and provided too low power for intense Graphic/Physic events, the grafix were laggy and games crashed. Changed the powersupply and all the grafix problems went away! Who would have thought_

Help me help others.

Post your soloutions and methods on how you turned your low FPS around.

[GATX]

You could also try:
- Disabling "Borderless" in video settings
- Tweak the .ini files to turn off some graphic settings that are not visible ingame

[Spliff_Craven]

GATX, on March 11 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

You could also try:
- Disabling "Borderless" in video settings
- Tweak the .ini files to turn off some graphic settings that are not visible ingame

I would like to add: DON"T MESS WITH THE INI SETTINGS UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING!

[TerranCmdr]

Very helpful info, I'll try a full Hawken reinstall but other than that I've pretty much tried all of your other suggestions.

Here's a link to my support thread.



UPDATE: Reinstalled Hawken, made sure to delete any files I had on my HDD.  Framerates are still as bad as they were.  Just by watching the "stat fps" ingame I was getting an average of around 25.

Edited by TerranCmdr, March 14 2013 - 07:40 AM.

[TTbatt]

HOW DO YOU open ports for hawken

[Preternatural]

How to get better FPS:

1.) Go outside during a rainy day.
2.) Dance and sing the "rain song."
3.) Eat a piece of grass.
4.) Get a girlfriend.
5.) If you've gotten this far, you have more than enough time to figure out how to actually get better frames!

[davek1979]

Get a decent CPU. Honestly, too many people out there think about graphics and framerates only in terms of GPU raw power.

Well here's a wake up call - you can run 10 Titans if you wish, but if the rest of the system is unable to feed it with data fast enough, you ain't gonna see any improvement. CPU is the critical component here. Trust me, I know first hand.

I went from 20-30 FPS to roughly 100 just by ditching that old dual core and getting an i5-3750k.

[Starrphy]

Watch youtube videos while you play. :I don't know why but i got an increase. (like 30%_)

Edited by Starrphy, August 03 2013 - 05:04 PM.

[Shades998]

_{Try disabling your hyperthreading. Seriously. From what I have read and experienced hyperthreading is more of a marketing gimmick than anything with a practical application. It can actually slow down your processing cores as they can get overloaded with these extra pretend hyperthreading lanes. I have done that on my i7-2700k and saw a noticeable improvement in some games that were cpu intensive. Just my humble opinion on the subject, no gamer right now needs an i7 and honestly I should have bought an i5.}

Edited by Shades998, August 03 2013 - 05:02 PM.

[Spliff_Craven]

My system is an i7 quad core which is equivalent to 8 logical cores when unlocked. I figured I have them I might as well use them.
Hyperthreading is wide open. I used this link {Click this link for you-tube video on how to unlock the parked cores *ATTEMPT AT YOUR OWN RISK*}.
Currently I'm running 2 Geforce 560 TI's in SLI.
If my SLI gets shut off because of an update than I suffer mass framedrop.
Re-activate the SLI bridge and BAM! Frame rate increase!

Give that a try and see what you think.

[nepacaka]

have an old PC and problem with FPS_

FPS problem no more:
https://community.pl...540#entry400793

effect:
https://community.pl...540#entry400301

yes I know that it is on the Russian Language =D
just look at the piece code in the "spoiler". and change in hawkensystemsettings.cfg

Edited by nepacaka, January 08 2014 - 12:28 PM.

[Spliff_Craven]

nepacaka, on January 08 2014 - 12:27 PM, said:

have an old PC and problem with FPS_

FPS problem no more:
https://community.pl...540#entry400793

effect:
https://community.pl...540#entry400301

yes I know that it is on the Russian Language =D
just look at the piece code in the "spoiler". and change in hawkensystemsettings.cfg

Got it in English_

[nepacaka]

yep!
go to hawkensystemsettings.cfg
(path in winXP - C:Documents and Settings@user_name@My DocumentsMy GamesHawkenHawkenGameConfig)

change this:
TessellationAdaptivePixelsPerTriangle=16.000000

and this:

Spoiler

[TextureSettingsLow]
TEXTUREGROUP_World=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_WorldNormalMap=(MinLODSize=8,MaxLODSize=16,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_WorldSpecular=(MinLODSize=8,MaxLODSize=16,LODBias=2)
TEXTUREGROUP_Character=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,NumStreamedMips=4)
TEXTUREGROUP_CharacterNormalMap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,NumStreamedMips=4)
TEXTUREGROUP_CharacterSpecular=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,NumStreamedMips=4)
TEXTUREGROUP_Weapon=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_WeaponNormalMap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_WeaponSpecular=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_Vehicle=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_VehicleNormalMap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_VehicleSpecular=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_Cinematic=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_Effects=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_EffectsNotFiltered=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=linear,MipFilter=point)
TEXTUREGROUP_Skybox=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_UI=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_Lightmap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1)
TEXTUREGROUP_Shadowmap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0,NumStreamedMips=4)
TEXTUREGROUP_RenderTarget=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_MobileFlattened=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0)
TEXTUREGROUP_ProcBuilding_Face=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=linear,MipFilter=point)
TEXTUREGROUP_ProcBuilding_LightMap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=linear,MipFilter=point)
TEXTUREGROUP_Terrain_Heightmap=(MinLODSize=256,MaxLODSize=512,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=linear,MipFilter=point)
TEXTUREGROUP_Terrain_Weightmap=(MinLODSize=256,MaxLODSize=512,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=linear,MipFilter=point)
TEXTUREGROUP_ImageBasedReflection=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=linear,MipFilter=linear,MipGenSettings=TMGS_Blur5)
TEXTUREGROUP_Bokeh=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=linear,MipFilter=linear)

my config, conatain many changes. all video settings turnings from "low" - to "extra low" (or "back to 90's style" =3)

Spoiler

[SystemSettings]
DynamicLightEnvUpdateScale=1.000000
StaticDecals=False
DynamicDecals=False
UnbatchedDecals=True
DecalCullDistanceScale=0.100000
DynamicLights=True
DynamicShadows=False
LightEnvironmentShadows=False
CompositeDynamicLights=True
SHSecondaryLighting=True
DirectionalLightmaps=True
Motionblur=False
MotionblurPause=True
MotionblurSkinning=0
DepthOfField=False
AmbientOcclusion=False
Bloom=False
bAllowLightShafts=False
Distortion=False
FilteredDistortion=True
DropParticleDistortion=True
bAllowDownsampledTranslucency=False
NVParticleDownsampling=True
NVParticleDownsamplingThreshold=100.000000
NVParticleBlur=True
NVParticleBlurMaxRadiusScale=8.000000
NVOpacityShadows=True
NVOpaqueOpacityShadows=True
NVOpacityShadowResolution=128
NvMeshComplexityThreshold=50
SpeedTreeLeaves=True
SpeedTreeFronds=True
OnlyStreamInTextures=False
LensFlares=False
FogVolumes=True
FloatingPointRenderTargets=True
OneFrameThreadLag=True
UseVsync=True
UpscaleScreenPercentage=True
Fullscreen=False
AllowOpenGL=False
AllowRadialBlur=False
AllowSubsurfaceScattering=True
AllowImageReflections=True
AllowImageReflectionShadowing=True
bAllowSeparateTranslucency=False
bAllowPostprocessMLAA=False
bAllowPostprocess=True
bAllowHighQualityMaterials=False
MaxFilterBlurSampleCount=16
SkeletalMeshLODBias=1
ParticleLODBias=0
DetailMode=0
MaxDrawDistanceScale=1.000000
ShadowFilterQualityBias=0
MaxAnisotropy=0
MaxMultiSamples=1
bAllowD3D9MSAA=False
bAllowTemporalAA=False
TemporalAA_MinDepth=500.000000
TemporalAA_StartDepthVelocityScale=100.000000
MinShadowResolution=64
MinPreShadowResolution=8
MaxShadowResolution=256
MobileShadowTextureResolution=1120
MaxWholeSceneDominantShadowResolution=256
ShadowFadeResolution=128
PreShadowFadeResolution=16
ShadowFadeExponent=0.250000
ResX=1280
ResY=768
ScreenPercentage=100.000000
SceneCaptureStreamingMultiplier=1.000000
ShadowTexelsPerPixel=0.000000
PreShadowResolutionFactor=0.500000
bEnableBranchingPCFShadows=False
bAllowHardwareShadowFiltering=False
TessellationAdaptivePixelsPerTriangle=16.000000
bEnableForegroundShadowsOnWorld=True
bEnableForegroundSelfShadowing=False
bAllowWholeSceneDominantShadows=True
bUseConservativeShadowBounds=True
ShadowFilterRadius=2.000000
ShadowDepthBias=0.012000
PerObjectShadowTransition=60.000000
PerSceneShadowTransition=600.000000
CSMSplitPenumbraScale=0.500000
CSMSplitSoftTransitionDistanceScale=4.000000
CSMSplitDepthBiasScale=0.500000
CSMMinimumFOV=40.000000
CSMFOVRoundFactor=4.000000
UnbuiltWholeSceneDynamicShadowRadius=20000.000000
UnbuiltNumWholeSceneDynamicShadowCascades=3
WholeSceneShadowUnbuiltInteractionThreshold=50
bAllowFracturedDamage=True
NumFracturedPartsScale=1.000000
FractureDirectSpawnChanceScale=1.000000
FractureRadialSpawnChanceScale=1.000000
FractureCullDistanceScale=0.250000
bForceCPUAccessToGPUSkinVerts=false
bDisableSkeletalInstanceWeights=false
HighPrecisionGBuffers=False
AllowSecondaryDisplays=False
SecondaryDisplayMaximumWidth=1280
SecondaryDisplayMaximumHeight=720
AllowPerFrameSleep=True
AllowPerFrameYield=True
MobileFeatureLevel=0
MobileFog=True
MobileHeightFog=False
MobileSpecular=True
MobileBumpOffset=True
MobileNormalMapping=True
MobileEnvMapping=True
MobileRimLighting=True
MobileColorBlending=True
MobileColorGrading=False
MobileVertexMovement=True
MobileOcclusionQueries=False
MobileGlobalGammaCorrection=False
MobileAllowGammaCorrectionWorldOverride=False
MobileAllowDepthPrePass=False
MobileGfxGammaCorrection=False
MobileLODBias=-0.500000
MobileBoneCount=75
MobileBoneWeightCount=2
MobileUsePreprocessedShaders=True
MobileFlashRedForUncachedShaders=False
MobileWarmUpPreprocessedShaders=True
MobileCachePreprocessedShaders=False
MobileProfilePreprocessedShaders=False
MobileUseCPreprocessorOnShaders=True
MobileLoadCPreprocessedShaders=True
MobileSharePixelShaders=True
MobileShareVertexShaders=True
MobileShareShaderPrograms=True
MobileEnableMSAA=False
MobileContentScaleFactor=1.000000
MobileVertexScratchBufferSize=150
MobileIndexScratchBufferSize=10
MobileLightShaftScale=2.000000
MobileLightShaftFirstPass=0.500000
MobileLightShaftSecondPass=1.000000
MobileModShadows=True
MobileTiltShift=False
MobileMaxMemory=300
MobilePostProcessBlurAmount=32.0
bMobileUsingHighResolutionTiming=True
MobileTiltShiftPosition=0.500000
MobileTiltShiftFocusWidth=0.300000
MobileTiltShiftTransitionWidth=0.500000
MobileMaxShadowRange=500.000000
MobileBloomTint=(R=1.0,G=0.75,B=0.0,A=1.0)
MobileClearDepthBetweenDPG=False
MobileSceneDepthResolveForShadows=TRUE
MobileLandscapeLodBias=0
MobileUseShaderGroupForStartupObjects=FALSE
MobileMinimizeFogShaders=FALSE
MobileFXAAQuality=0
ApexLODResourceBudget=1000000020040877300000.000000
ApexDestructionMaxChunkIslandCount=2500
ApexDestructionMaxShapeCount=0
ApexDestructionMaxChunkSeparationLOD=1.000000
ApexDestructionMaxActorCreatesPerFrame=-1
ApexDestructionMaxFracturesProcessedPerFrame=-1
ApexDestructionSortByBenefit=True
ApexGRBEnable=false
ApexGRBGPUMemSceneSize=128
ApexGRBGPUMemTempDataSize=128
ApexGRBMeshCellSize=7.500000
ApexGRBNonPenSolverPosIterCount=9
ApexGRBFrictionSolverPosIterCount=3
ApexGRBFrictionSolverVelIterCount=3
ApexGRBSkinWidth=0.025000
ApexGRBMaxLinearAcceleration=1000000.000000
bEnableParallelAPEXClothingFetch=True
bApexClothingAsyncFetchResults=False
ApexClothingAvgSimFrequencyWindow=60
ApexClothingAllowAsyncCooking=True
ApexClothingAllowApexWorkBetweenSubsteps=FALSE
TEXTUREGROUP_World=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_WorldNormalMap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=8,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_WorldSpecular=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=8,LODBias=2,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_Character=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,NumStreamedMips=4,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_CharacterNormalMap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,NumStreamedMips=4,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_CharacterSpecular=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,NumStreamedMips=4,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_Weapon=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_WeaponNormalMap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_WeaponSpecular=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_Vehicle=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_VehicleNormalMap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_VehicleSpecular=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_Cinematic=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_Effects=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_EffectsNotFiltered=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Linear,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_Skybox=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_UI=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_Lightmap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_Shadowmap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,NumStreamedMips=4,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_RenderTarget=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_MobileFlattened=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_ProcBuilding_Face=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Linear,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_ProcBuilding_LightMap=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Linear,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_Terrain_Heightmap=(MinLODSize=256,MaxLODSize=512,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Linear,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_Terrain_Weightmap=(MinLODSize=256,MaxLODSize=512,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Linear,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
TEXTUREGROUP_ImageBasedReflection=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Linear,MipFilter=Linear,MipGenSettings=TMGS_Blur5)
TEXTUREGROUP_Bokeh=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=1,LODBias=1,MinMagFilter=Linear,MipFilter=Linear,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
bAllowOpenGL=False
bUseCustomSettings=True
Borderless=False
bAllowImageGrain=False
TextureDetailLevel=0
GraphicsQualityLevel=0
TEXTUREGROUP_ColorLookupTable=(MinLODSize=1,MaxLODSize=4096,LODBias=0,MinMagFilter=Aniso,MipFilter=Point,MipGenSettings=TMGS_SimpleAverage)
bAllowPostprocessAA=False
bAllowStatic=False

if you hawken not worked on you sux PC =D. Hope this helps. (although dead space 3, assassin creed 3, unreal 3, bioshock and other new game working without lags. lol. only hawken crashes)

I have a problem with the video card in Hawken - "ran out video memory" when i play, and game crashes on desktop.

I talked/requested about this problem with a support a few months, but in the end did not found a solution. their answer was - "buy a new PC. Your computer is too weak and does not satisfy Hawken min. requirements".
but I know...that it satisfies...
I found settings in .cfg that are responsible for the resolution of textures, an analogue of "r_picmip 10" in Quake3: arena.
It does not greatly improves performance in fact, about 10-20 FPS, but eliminates many Hawk crashes (maybe only for me but, no crashes on bazaar, losteco,wreckage. no more drop FPS on winterEco.).
Also, i have a UseVsync=True , this limits my FPS to 60-70, but instead - reduces the load from the video card. if you disable vsync, FPS increase.


In addition, you get your own "plasticine Hawken" style =D
effect:

Edited by nepacaka, March 19 2014 - 08:46 PM.

[nepacaka]

Quote

Got it in English_

sure

[LoC_TR]

TTbatt, on August 02 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

HOW DO YOU open ports for hawken

http://windows.micro...l#1TC=windows-7

step by step

[leviestrada]

do you enjoy playing like that_!_!
I mean it would be nice to have 300 fps but the first thing I loved in hawken were its graphics...

[QlimaxIta]

Nepaka, you must be a fellow Quake player, aren't you_

[Cpt_Kill_Jack]

If on nvidia try my tutorial in my sig. Helps in more than just hawken.