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[Guiotine]

labmice00, on March 26 2013 - 05:21 PM, said:

Guiotine, on March 26 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

ReachH, on March 26 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

The old internal names were indeed much better, with the possible exception of Prosk.

I am still waiting for a map named Sentium. Possibly Crion as well.

There is a map named Sentium in the game files. It is also called "Highways".

I actually read the Hawken graphic novel again and saw "Titan" is the name of a Sentium controlled city. I seem to remember that being the name for a map... Origin, I think.

[HugeGuts]

I think the most important thing not yet realized is the Nanobot Rifle isn't the Repair Torch. This means a second support class will eventually join the Technician. My guess is it will be the Medium class 'Forger'. The Forger will support the team by healing friendlies and fortifying deployed items. Its special ability will be a unique deployable, probably an attack drone. The Forger will use the Civ chassis.

[Cpt_Kill_Jack]

HugeGuts, on March 26 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

I think the most important thing not yet realized is the Nanobot Rifle isn't the Repair Torch. This means a second support class will eventually join the Technician. My guess is it will be the Medium class 'Forger'. The Forger will support the team by healing friendlies and fortifying deployed items. Its special ability will be a unique deployable, probably an attack drone. The Forger will use the Civ chassis.

We shall see. If my eyes dont deceive me its the same weapon. The difference is them working on the concept more and it evolving into more than just a torch.

We still need to get them to change the Techs chassis to the Kerby Chassis.

Edited by Cpt_Kill_Jack, March 26 2013 - 07:37 PM.

[Beefsweat]

Cpt_Kill_Jack, on March 26 2013 - 07:36 PM, said:

HugeGuts, on March 26 2013 - 07:34 PM, said:

I think the most important thing not yet realized is the Nanobot Rifle isn't the Repair Torch. This means a second support class will eventually join the Technician. My guess is it will be the Medium class 'Forger'. The Forger will support the team by healing friendlies and fortifying deployed items. Its special ability will be a unique deployable, probably an attack drone. The Forger will use the Civ chassis.

We shall see. If my eyes dont deceive me its the same weapon. The difference is them working on the concept more and it evolving into more than just a torch.

We still need to get them to change the Techs chassis to the Kerby Chassis.

If you look at the model of the repair torch extracted from the game, it looks pretty different from the nanobot rifle.

[KejiGoto]

Really excited for destructible environments! Also wondering if it will only be on the new map or if we'll see it on all maps now_

The Technician looks like it will be a cool mech and one I welcome into the fold. Some seem to have issues with Hawken being more like Team Fortress 2 but personally I have no issues with that. Definitely will add more depth to team play and will open up some serious tactical options.

For those worried about a Brawler in turret mode with a Technician behind it healing I just have to say this; move away from it. Force the Brawler out of turret mode to combat you and if you're playing an objective based mode then make sure you are working with your team to slam the Brawler or better yet nail the squishy Technician. That's what I do in Team Fortress 2 all the time.

[hendman]

KejiGoto, on March 26 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

Really excited for destructible environments! Also wondering if it will only be on the new map or if we'll see it on all maps now_

The Technician looks like it will be a cool mech and one I welcome into the fold. Some seem to have issues with Hawken being more like Team Fortress 2 but personally I have no issues with that. Definitely will add more depth to team play and will open up some serious tactical options.

For those worried about a Brawler in turret mode with a Technician behind it healing I just have to say this; move away from it. Force the Brawler out of turret mode to combat you and if you're playing an objective based mode then make sure you are working with your team to slam the Brawler or better yet nail the squishy Technician. That's what I do in Team Fortress 2 all the time.

Destructible items won't even work on the valkyrie map. They only used it in the demo for pax east so far.

[Cpt_Kill_Jack]

KejiGoto, on March 26 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

Really excited for destructible environments! Also wondering if it will only be on the new map or if we'll see it on all maps now_

The Technician looks like it will be a cool mech and one I welcome into the fold. Some seem to have issues with Hawken being more like Team Fortress 2 but personally I have no issues with that. Definitely will add more depth to team play and will open up some serious tactical options.

For those worried about a Brawler in turret mode with a Technician behind it healing I just have to say this; move away from it. Force the Brawler out of turret mode to combat you and if you're playing an objective based mode then make sure you are working with your team to slam the Brawler or better yet nail the squishy Technician. That's what I do in Team Fortress 2 all the time.

Keji the destructible environment is something that they are working on that will not be in this upcoming patch. There is still a lot to work out. The demo map that they used at pax is the only map this works on at the moment.

[KejiGoto]

The disappointment I feel... I want to blow more stuff up when I play Hawken... Like I want to blow EVERYTHING up when I play Hawken...

[xXHadronCutterXx]

I'm worried that they haven't announced a single thing balance wise. Maybe they're just keeping it in the shadows for now. Anyways, loving all the new features, but I'm slightly sceptical towards The Technician, I have a feeling it'll be either useless or too usefull.

[AsianJoyKiller]

I await the moment people realize having a Tech on a team is a requirement.

[Omega22]

KejiGoto, on March 26 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

Really excited for destructible environments! Also wondering if it will only be on the new map or if we'll see it on all maps now_

The Technician looks like it will be a cool mech and one I welcome into the fold. Some seem to have issues with Hawken being more like Team Fortress 2 but personally I have no issues with that. Definitely will add more depth to team play and will open up some serious tactical options.

For those worried about a Brawler in turret mode with a Technician behind it healing I just have to say this; move away from it. Force the Brawler out of turret mode to combat you and if you're playing an objective based mode then make sure you are working with your team to slam the Brawler or better yet nail the squishy Technician. That's what I do in Team Fortress 2 all the time.

AND WHAT ABOUT SHARPSHOOTERS WITH TECHNICIANS HEALING THEM ... !

[AsianJoyKiller]

Omega22, on March 27 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

AND WHAT ABOUT SHARPSHOOTERS WITH TECHNICIANS HEALING THEM ... !

If a Tech is healing a backline SS, it's not much a problem, as they're wasting their potential because it's easy for a SS to retreat and repair quickly.

Think about what happens when they get put right behind the front line. You'll have Raiders and Scouts that never go down. Turret Brawlers that can't possible die even when multiple people shoot them.

Several weapon combos overheat or come close to overheating against the standard repair rate. What will happen since the Tech has a faster than normal repair rate_

[Cpt_Kill_Jack]

AsianJoyKiller, on March 27 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

Omega22, on March 27 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

AND WHAT ABOUT SHARPSHOOTERS WITH TECHNICIANS HEALING THEM ... !

If a Tech is healing a backline SS, it's not much a problem, as they're wasting their potential because it's easy for a SS to retreat and repair quickly.

Think about what happens when they get put right behind the front line. You'll have Raiders and Scouts that never go down. Turret Brawlers that can't possible die even when multiple people shoot them.

Several weapon combos overheat or come close to overheating against the standard repair rate. What will happen since the Tech has a faster than normal repair rate_

I agree with you on this. The Tech should be up with its team helping his team an not the backline Support SS.

[HugeGuts]

AsianJoyKiller, on March 27 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

If a Tech is healing a backline SS, it's not much a problem, as they're wasting their potential because it's easy for a SS to retreat and repair quickly.

Unless, of course, the Technician can manage to effectively apply its debuff. Brawler/Technician God Mode combo, here we come_ Ha ha! No, gentlemen. Sharpshooter/Technician Instagib combo, here we come!

Edited by HugeGuts, March 27 2013 - 11:12 AM.

[SirCannonFodder]

AsianJoyKiller, on March 27 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

Omega22, on March 27 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

AND WHAT ABOUT SHARPSHOOTERS WITH TECHNICIANS HEALING THEM ... !

If a Tech is healing a backline SS, it's not much a problem, as they're wasting their potential because it's easy for a SS to retreat and repair quickly.

Think about what happens when they get put right behind the front line. You'll have Raiders and Scouts that never go down. Turret Brawlers that can't possible die even when multiple people shoot them.

Several weapon combos overheat or come close to overheating against the standard repair rate. What will happen since the Tech has a faster than normal repair rate_

I wanna say that the devs wouldn't do something like this without thinking it through first, I really do, but considering all the other times they've done exactly that, I just can't do it with a straight face.

[Cpt_Kill_Jack]

SirCannonFodder, on March 27 2013 - 11:13 AM, said:

AsianJoyKiller, on March 27 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

Omega22, on March 27 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

AND WHAT ABOUT SHARPSHOOTERS WITH TECHNICIANS HEALING THEM ... !

If a Tech is healing a backline SS, it's not much a problem, as they're wasting their potential because it's easy for a SS to retreat and repair quickly.

Think about what happens when they get put right behind the front line. You'll have Raiders and Scouts that never go down. Turret Brawlers that can't possible die even when multiple people shoot them.

Several weapon combos overheat or come close to overheating against the standard repair rate. What will happen since the Tech has a faster than normal repair rate_

I wanna say that the devs wouldn't do something like this without thinking it through first, I really do, but considering all the other times they've done exactly that, I just can't do it with a straight face.

I'll do it for you then. They think things through before they do it.

[xXHadronCutterXx]

I'm also worried how everyone forgot you can put a Repair Charge on any mech, so it can be placed on the Technician as well.

Opposing team: "Dude we're just about to down that Brawler that's being healed by the Tech! C'mon guys!"
The Tech: "Lol nope. *deploys repair charge*"

Opposing player A has left the server.
Opposing player B has left the server.
Opposing player C has left the server.
Opposing player D has left the server.

[AsianJoyKiller]

xXHadroncutterXx, on March 27 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

I'm also worried how everyone forgot you can put a Repair Charge on any mech, so it can be placed on the Technician as well.

Opposing team: "Dude we're just about to down that Brawler that's being healed by the Tech! C'mon guys!"
The Tech: "Lol nope. *deploys repair charge*"

Opposing player A has left the server.
Opposing player B has left the server.
Opposing player C has left the server.
Opposing player D has left the server.

Don't forget, the Brawler can have one too.

[xXHadronCutterXx]

AsianJoyKiller, on March 27 2013 - 01:02 PM, said:

xXHadroncutterXx, on March 27 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

I'm also worried how everyone forgot you can put a Repair Charge on any mech, so it can be placed on the Technician as well.

Opposing team: "Dude we're just about to down that Brawler that's being healed by the Tech! C'mon guys!"
The Tech: "Lol nope. *deploys repair charge*"

Opposing player A has left the server.
Opposing player B has left the server.
Opposing player C has left the server.
Opposing player D has left the server.

Don't forget, the Brawler can have one too.

Oh and let's not forget the optimizations and internals. It's funny how soon a single mech will become stronger than an entire fuzzy bunny wall.