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[Mergaz]

Hawken could be a good tactical FPS, but preferred to be a simple arena shooter and if it continues at this pace will finish bankrupt  in the same mass grave of many other F2P FPS.

Edited by Mergaz, March 07 2014 - 12:45 PM.

[reVelske]

...Since when has Hawken ever been a tactical FPS_ Or are you using the word "tactical" loosely and aren't actually referring to the genre "Tactical FPS"_

Edited by reVelske, April 17 2014 - 06:40 AM.

[Jooooose]

X_Mangoose_X, on February 08 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

I like the new hawken, more team play.
stop complaining and learn to play with other players once and for all, and put aside the "solitary man who kills everyone" just want to feed your ego

Damn man, got kinda heated there. Maybe you should have a drink, chill out for a minute.

[Jooooose]

Mergaz, on March 07 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

Hawken could be a good tactical FPS, but preferred to be a simple arena shooter and if it continues at this pace will finish bankrupt  in the same mass grave of many other F2P FPS.

The only style of shooter that Hawken should ever be is an arena style shooter. The game is about robots blowing eachother up, its never going to be as serious as you want it to be.

[DaPheel]

I think the games in a good place at the moment, there's still work to be done, the mech pool could be more diverse (I would like to see a new A class or two, perhaps with an aggresive support mech, to fill the gap that the scout should have done).

I like my new HUD - the option to colour it is something I missed from pre-ascension, and the option to change reticles is great.

I'd like to see internals with drawbacks to balance the benefits, like those from pre-ascension (but with slightly better values). Things like "lightweight armour plating" which increases movement speed with a fixed amount, but increases the percentage of damage taken from weapons, or "Improved boosters" which decreases dodge cooldown at the cost of movement speed. I think these sort of internals could add a lot of diversity to the playstyle of the game.

[Teljaxx]

I changed my vote from before. I actually do like the current state of the game.

The main thing I did not like from right after the Steam release was the combination of the low health, no penalty dodging, and slow movement speeds. But now that there is a small penalty for dodging again, and you can actually move fast enough to get around without dodging, it is really fun again.

It still needs a few tweaks, like how sustained damage is now better than burst damage in most situations, but I think it is now better than it has been before.

[The_Silencer]

Do I want the "Old HAWKEN"_ Nay.

I just rather put some few of those hypothetical resources into solving "The 2 Intrusive Info Bars (2-IIB)" case -you know those couple health and fuel bars..

And don't tell me that replacing these 2 bars via just displaying a couple of numerical boxes on your HUD (as is the special ability or item/s displays..) would consume such an amount of precious gameticks and/or unaffordable resources.

P.S. Nevertheless, my dear Elliot Ness, something says me that we'll have this in 2 months or so..

[Aregon]

BTW where is Slide_

[The_Silencer]

..In some slideshow_

[comic_sans]

Jooooose, on April 18 2014 - 01:44 AM, said:

Mergaz, on March 07 2014 - 12:31 PM, said:

Hawken could be a good tactical FPS, but preferred to be a simple arena shooter and if it continues at this pace will finish bankrupt  in the same mass grave of many other F2P FPS.

The only style of shooter that Hawken should ever be is an arena style shooter. The game is about robots blowing eachother up, its never going to be as serious as you want it to be.

I like you already.

And I miss Slidermann too, but I think he wound up getting super frustrated by low TTK changes coupled with his connection making games more than a lil unfair.  Just guessing really, it's been a while since we spoke.  I hope he comes back to correct me or prove me wrong.

Edited by comic_sans, April 19 2014 - 05:57 AM.

[bmendonc]

X_Mangoose_X, on February 08 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

I like the new hawken, more team play.
stop complaining and learn to play with other players once and for all, and put aside the "solitary man who kills everyone" just want to feed your ego

exactly

[angryhampster]

I want different color map, thicken my crosshairs or thin it.   I wst mayhem.  I want a ntnew b mech.   I want mayhem.  I want new mech.  I need a hug.....  i need a drink.

[EM1O]

ttk has gotten to making the gameplay just a little too panic-twitchy for my taste.
linux. bsd. unix. just do it. do it now. you want speed_ stability_ wowser!
the bottom line here, is the bottom line. input from the forums comes from a base consisting of less than 0.8% of the total Hawken player population. money talks. and if what they're doing is beefing up that bottomline, that's prolly what they're mostly listening to.
the "core membership", as in the alpha and beta groups that consistently provided objective input on the game and gameplay to this day, and didn't float with novice or rabid opinion in the forums, and the Cockpit fanclub (although, flame-wars notwithstanding), generally provide a wiser and more thought-out guidance in the game's roadmap.
Hawken wouldn't be here now, if it were any other case.
Just my tuppence.
-O

Edited by EM1O, April 20 2014 - 05:27 PM.

[VYR3]

when the mechs feel like mechs and not wet toilet paper wrapped around barbwire, I'll be happy.

[OmegaNull]

VYR3, on April 20 2014 - 06:23 PM, said:

when the mechs feel like mechs and not wet toilet paper wrapped around barbwire, I'll be happy.

Then you are doing something very wrong. I have never felt that. Ever.

Right now, it is in a good place. There is still work to be done, but overall things are going good.

[Beefsweat]

VYR3, on April 20 2014 - 06:23 PM, said:

when the mechs feel like mechs and not wet toilet paper wrapped around barbwire, I'll be happy.

Hawken mechs sure 'feel like mechs' to me, dunno what your deal is. Now do you see that_ 'Feel' is a very loose, subjective thing and kneejerk reactions a good argument does not make.

[Teljaxx]

VYR3, on April 20 2014 - 06:23 PM, said:

when the mechs feel like mechs and not wet toilet paper wrapped around barbwire, I'll be happy.

If you charge in headfirst and face the entire enemy team alone, then yeah, your mech will fall apart like a dandelion puff in a tornado. But even the hulking tanks that are the Battlemechs in Mechwarrior will do that. The difference is that the mechs in Hawken are maneuverable enough to keep that from happening. It is up to the pilot to take advantage of that fact, though.

Edited by Teljaxx, April 20 2014 - 11:02 PM.

[Jooooose]

Man, I really just want the god damn old dashboard. Thats it. Thats all I want!

[Teljaxx]

...I broke this post.

Edited by Teljaxx, April 20 2014 - 11:04 PM.

[Aregon]

…Is this still a thing_

I can say I have never really cared in which way Hawken and it's playstyle was going, but I feel the never versions are much smoother, faster and simply more enjoyable.