23 replies to this topic

[Alfajk]

I have question about this items,does Advanced Armor Fusor and Armor Fusor stack together_ i mean do you have with both items 33% max armor regen per kill_

[Cyclonus]

Nope.

[Zdragow]

Speaking of this, why was it decided that removing the text "Incompatible with Basic [X] " should happen_ I can definitely see how the two could be misunderstood that they could stack. I can almost imagine a newer player wasting HC or even MC on this and realizing their mistake too late.

We should have that text back in.

[Ker4u]

you cant equip them

[OmegaNull]

No. However, you can do the following (this is my Brawler called Aegis):

Advanced Armor Fuser + Advanced Reconstructor + Repair Charge + Turret Mode (or + Heal). Couple with a tech, this thing is a walking tank. Literally. Plus, you don't mess with a Brawler.

[palad1ne]

Ker4u, on March 03 2014 - 12:11 PM, said:

you cant equip them

not anymore.. but you can be invisible xD

Edited by palad1ne, March 03 2014 - 01:49 PM.

[palad1ne]

Zdragow, on March 03 2014 - 12:07 PM, said:

Speaking of this, why was it decided that removing the text "Incompatible with Basic [X] " should happen_ I can definitely see how the two could be misunderstood that they could stack. I can almost imagine a newer player wasting HC or even MC on this and realizing their mistake too late.

easy money. Why change if it works good.

[thebloodgod0]

Armor Fusor doesn't stack, you can't equip 2 of them. Getting a double-kill doesn't stack the effect either, but getting a kill and an assist do.

[RadimentriX]

wtf, why doesn't doublekill stack. it's 2 damn kills so one has to get 2x13% or 2x20% depending on which fusor one uses. same for triple-kill etc

[Zdragow]

RadimentriX, on March 03 2014 - 05:32 PM, said:

wtf, why doesn't doublekill stack. it's 2 damn kills so one has to get 2x13% or 2x20% depending on which fusor one uses. same for triple-kill etc

Because that would be horribly broken.

[RadimentriX]

why would it be horribly broken_ the advanced fusor gives 20% in 20 seconds, that's 1% each second and that's like 7.8hp/s for a brawler, with a doublekill then 15.6hp/s, not that much imo. and it's not the 15.6hp/s for 20 seconds except you kill 2 enemies with the same shot (like an exploding tow between 2 mechs). mostly it's probably more like 7.8hp/s for 5 seconds, 15.6hp/s for 15 seconds, 7.8hp/s for another 5 seconds

[Zaxik]

+1
I too think armor fusor should stack with more kills/assists... sure, give it some hard cap if it would be too broken, but 7-ish HP per sec (or 10-ish if you stack kill and assist) for brawler is like spitting in the ocean and it's even worse for any other mech... I stopped using armor fusors, the benefit is close to nothing for three slot internal. I don't recall any single situation when armor fusor saved my life, it only serves for making repairing shorter by 0,5 sec maybe. Hell, just grab air compressor instead, even on C-class it will save your life much more often than a friggin advanced armor fusor.
BTW the numbers on armor fusors didn't change with new TTK, right_

Just my opinion, sorry if I offended someone who loves armor fusors.

Edited by Zaxik, March 03 2014 - 11:05 PM.

[thebloodgod0]

Nah, that same goes for me. I used to love the armor fusor but now it's just wasting my slots. They could just let it stack the time so that people can regenerate longer and more without making it so broken. Or hey can reduce the number of slots used cause I don't feel like wasting 3 slots for it.

[RadimentriX]

^
i like the idea of stacking the time instead of stacking the heal

[KillaKiwi]

btw according to the steam patch notes the armor fusor should regenerate 20 armor/sec for 10 seconds
http://i.imgur.com/VlWLfgv.png

[Krellus]

the internal descriptions badly need updating. its unacceptable that they are completely wrong when folks might be spending real money on them its outrageous actually, akin to false or misleading advertising.

[RadimentriX]

KillaKiwi, on March 05 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:

btw according to the steam patch notes the armor fusor should regenerate 20 armor/sec for 10 seconds
http://i.imgur.com/VlWLfgv.png

ok, but ingame it's still 13% in 20s/6.5% in 20s or 20% in 20s/13% in 20s i think. and dmg doesn't remove the effect. and that's good. who thought it's a good thing that repair stops just because there's dmg incoming_ -.-

also the reconstructor is different. the basic version heals 7hp/s i think and the advanced 25hp/s. not sure about that, tho

Edited by RadimentriX, March 06 2014 - 01:21 AM.

[KillaKiwi]

if armor fusor would actually heal 20armor/sec instead of percentage I wouldn't mind that damage removes the effect. It would still be more effective than 20% of any mechs health.

[RadimentriX]

because it totally helps if you're in a fight, kill one mech while still getting damage from another one. hooray, if you're lucky you get 20hp before the next hit cancels the effect.

[Wasabi_Wei]

KillaKiwi, on March 05 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:

btw according to the steam patch notes the armor fusor should regenerate 20 armor/sec for 10 seconds
http://i.imgur.com/VlWLfgv.png

That imgur description is dead wrong. Misinformation. A kill = 20% of max. armor over 20 seconds. An assist gets you 13% over 20 seconds with no cancel or stacking with multiple kills until the 20 seconds of activation have elapsed.

Edited by Wasabi_Wei, March 06 2014 - 08:06 PM.