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This needs to happen
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Wouldn't mind it on the SS.



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I think that it should be on the CTR-Recruit. It at least needs another weapon to differ from the Assault.


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Rumor has it there was a concept with the Hon chassis that had both GL and the Heat. I'd like a similar design - obviously without the GL because we all know how terrible it is.
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No more TOW mechs pl0x.


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 both GL and the Heat

already have that combo with Infil.  prolly never happen on a B...what would be the point?

come to think of it, possibly same reason havent seen Flak Cannon + TOW on a B.

heh.


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Wouldn't mind it on the SS.

I could actually see this as opposed to the AM SAR.


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I'm on board. B class with heat, and a new rotary canon. G2 incinerator!

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I could actually see this as opposed to the AM SAR.

 

It is miserable hell trying to coordinate a non-hitscan primary with a hitscan secondary that depends on zooming in.  This exact combo is a confusing headache to play with.


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It is miserable hell trying to coordinate a non-hitscan primary with a hitscan secondary that depends on zooming in.  This exact combo is a confusing headache to play with.

yeah so


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what kind of secondary would this mech have? what kind of weapon would compliment the playstyle of the heat cannon?

 

lol hellfires and a heat cannon on a mech whose ability grants them a radar overlay similar to the predator, but with enough transparency to still view the playing field.... I dunno.


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I think that it should be on the CTR-Recruit. It at least needs another weapon to differ from the Assault.

^This. 9000x this.
(If not heat cannon, then something else).


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Post of agreement and support.



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G2 Technichian:  B-Class with Heat cannon and Heal beam  Ability turns heat cannon into heal cannon for long range healz!


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Wouldn't mind it on the SS.

oh god i'm hard


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Heat cannon is a mid-range burst that shoot straight forward, aside from the TOW, the secondary that could match the same aim should be the Corsair.

 

A heat cannon raider ?


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Heat cannon is a mid-range burst that shoot straight forward, aside from the TOW, the secondary that could match the same aim should be the Corsair.

A heat cannon raider ?


I really want the flak cannon or breacher on the raider instead of the EOC ;_;

Heat cannon wouldn't fit the Raider as it is designed to be weak long range and much stronger close range.

However I could see it working on Pred, but the Pred's primaries already work fine for it.

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Pred's primaries already work fine for it.

T32 doesn't - Heat Cannon Pred could be interesting though.



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Or why not the sharp shooter???

Just suggesting

I never played sharpshooter so I don't know what it needs but from the looks of it I think it could work?

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SS gameplay requires both hitscan. The weird behavior of the heat wont work for him.

 

I played heat gren' this morning, I plainly sucked at it ... heat is a mid-range peek-a-boo and requires rather high turnrate and rather fast mech...


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Rumor has it there was a concept with the Hon chassis that had both GL and the Heat. I'd like a similar design - obviously without the GL because we all know how terrible it is.


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I'd like a similar design - obviously without the GL because we all know how terrible it is.

 

Is that irony?

 

Cause my vulcan gren would have You, Mr top 1, for a SNACK.


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Heat raider is a beautiful thing, fyi.  I'd replace reflak with that cuz fart on reflak and anyone who says otherwise is objectively wrong.


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Was actually thinking about starting a topic about this myself. Heat is one of my favorite weapons and B classes have the best feel IMO. I think the combo would be really fun.



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Raider and Predator, period!

 

Heat cannon wouldn't fit the Raider as it is designed to be weak long range and much stronger close range.

Wrong. That's like saying that the Scout shouldn't have a heat cannon because it's designed for close range, but if you combine a heat cannon with a TOW rocket that makes for a great mid range combo. Combining a Heat Cannon with a Corsair-KLA grenade would easily make the Raider viable at mid range. To be honest, I feel that putting the Heat Cannon on a Raider, instead of the EOC, would make it a middleweight Scout, if you consider the fact that the Raider is the fastest B mech in the game (I think, probably) and the nature of the Blitz ability.

 

Regarding the Predator having a Heat Cannon, As Meraple said, the T32-Bolt is up front and center broken on that mech. It bottlenecks it at both close and mid range. At close range, the T32's optimal range, you risk damaging yourself with your EOC Predator mines. At mid range, due to the spread and damage falloff of the T32, you have to rely on your EOC mines to do any damage. However, if you aren't good at leading your shots, you just won't be dealing substantial damage. Plus, EOC mines have no airburst function. Having the Heat Cannon as a secondary, in place of the T32, would change all this.


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I think the Eoc makes raider an amazing mid range mech. However the weapon combo forces you to make prediction shots 90% of the time. This is a bait and switch combo. The kiting king. It's fodder in open areas, so don't be in open areas. Use blitz to keep that distance. Make areas people flank at and areas that are hard to advance from a priority position while also not straying from your team.
Heat would also fit this functionality pretty well but would still suffer from some of the same issues that EOC presents in air combat. I'm not really for changing weapons on existing mechs all that much though.

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I think this idea sounds cool, but could perhaps a G2 mech of some sort.

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