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[DieselCat]

Playing on basicly the same system since '07, getting avg fps 25-40 on medium settings. Though I did upgrade my gpu last year to a r2 290x...it's like having it in a straight jacket and Vista isn't any help either.

 

Gotta love that 775 socket & X48 Gigabyte board, both are like a Timex and built like a tank.....New system planned for FY '16.

 

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[Pleasure_Mortar]

After bouncing from 1770 to 1800 back and forth I am now making steady progression. When the first couple of replies came in I was at 1770. Today I'm a t 1840. Regarding the amount of time I spent playing I'm really happy. 

Edited by Pleasure_Mortar, 15 October 2015 - 10:18 AM.

[LarryLaffer]

Besides all the useful stuff other players told you, I recommend you to play some other Arena FPS from time to time. Quake Live and new Unreal Tournament, which is in pre-alpha state at present, are great examples of such games and they're completely free to play. Of course Hawken will be your main game to play and improve, but playing various shooters will help you to understand this genre better in general and improve your basic skills. I've noticed for myself that even playing against nightmare bots in QL helps me to play better in Hawken, so I can aim and react on various situations much better.

Edited by LarryLaffer, 15 October 2015 - 09:31 PM.

[StubbornPuppet]

The first 30 days or so that I played, I was around 1800.  When I switched to my controller in my left hand and mouse in my right hand setup, I moved up to 2100.

 

I stayed at around 2100 for a very long time.  At a point about a year ago, even though I could feel my skills improving... my MMR kept going slowly down and then sat at 1950 until about 3 months ago, where it just started tanking and has remained at 1800.  My playing and connection were fine.  I could only attribute it to constantly being beaten by lower level players who had a lower MMR, and who's call-signs I did not recognize.

[WmMoneyFrmMissouri]

.... And call signs you do recognize, like WmMoney's Muahahaha!

[Pleasure_Mortar]

After playing way more consciously and using hawken.heroku.app a lot more I came to the conclusion the the way to a higher MMR, which is not directly my goal, is to forget about it and just focus on the skillimprovement, without looking at MMR.

99% of for me three star rated games consists of a few 2300+ and a whole lot of below 1500 rated players. The outcome of the match is rarely balanced.

Also as I recongnize more and more playernames I have witness major screw ups by the matchmaker. Two consecutive games in a row with almost no fluctuation went so horribly wrong and it was foreseeable just by looking at the playernames.

Either I'm gonna learn from the 2300+ players and slowly advance, or I will have the chance to improve when the playerbase broadens.

For now I don't really have the option to quit every bad match or stay out of 2 or 1 star rated game considering how much time I'm willing to spend in Hawken.

Edited by Pleasure_Mortar, 18 October 2015 - 10:13 AM.

[Pleasure_Mortar]

The first 30 days or so that I played, I was around 1800.  When I switched to my controller in my left hand and mouse in my right hand setup, I moved up to 2100.

 

I stayed at around 2100 for a very long time.  At a point about a year ago, even though I could feel my skills improving... my MMR kept going slowly down and then sat at 1950 until about 3 months ago, where it just started tanking and has remained at 1800.  My playing and connection were fine.  I could only attribute it to constantly being beaten by lower level players who had a lower MMR, and who's call-signs I did not recognize.

 

I had the same idea of using a controller for movement in my left hand. But unfortunately the left Xbox 360 stick is still not functional.

[PsychedelicGrass]

Nearly every match I play is horribly unbalanced, it's usually me on one team with everyone in the server who isn't so good while everyone decent is on the other team


I can only carry so much :c

[Amidatelion]

Nearly every match I play is horribly unbalanced, it's usually me on one team with everyone in the server who isn't so good while everyone decent is on the other team


I can only carry so much :c

 

Or, like today, get matched against 3 smurfs in one round with me to carry.

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

Or, like today, get matched against 3 smurfs in one round with me to carry.

 

 

For the record, I was not in this game.  I'm cooking a Sunday meal, and it's taking me all day.

[Amidatelion]

For the record, I was not in this game.  I'm cooking a Sunday meal, and it's taking me all day.

 

Roast?

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

Boeuf en Cro�te avec la r�duction de mad�re

[Amidatelion]

Boeuf en Cro�te avec la r�duction de mad�re

 

Jesus christ just call it beef wellington.

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

Ah!  but it's not...  similar, but not all rolled up together.  this is easier :)

[Amidatelion]

Ah!  but it's not...  similar, but not all rolled up together.  this is easier :)

 

Once I figured out how easy it was to roll a beef wellington loaf in plastic wrap, it stopped being hard.

 

Now to manage it with salmon welly

[WmMoneyFrmMissouri]

It'll wrap just fine in plastic wrap. Once you have it wrapped like a log twirl it a few times to tighten down, the puff pastry will mold together. Toss in freezer for 20 mins, brush with butter and you're off to the races.

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

the reduction was pretty awesome.  Good meal. I'll work on twizzing it as a roll by (us) thanksgiving.

[TheFrostnessMonster]

My main problem is keeping my crosshairs on the opposing mech while dueling, but playing against higher MMR players certainly helps if you pay attention to how they move around in the air and on the ground, as well as how they play each mech and what weapon combos they use for each mech playstyle.  This way you can adapt accordingly and go for the kind of fight their mech isn't built for.

Edited by TheFrostnessMonster, 18 October 2015 - 06:06 PM.

[StubbornPuppet]

I had the same idea of using a controller for movement in my left hand. But unfortunately the left Xbox 360 stick is still not functional.

Works for me and others I've talked to about it.

 

Did you go into the controller options and remap it specifically?

[Pleasure_Mortar]

Works for me and others I've talked to about it.

 

Did you go into the controller options and remap it specifically?

 

in hawken or windows?

in hawken it does not work. I can remap them and the settings accept the remap, ingame however the stick is dead.

I found a couple of complains that the left tumbstick on the xbox controller stopped working in hawken after the release on steam.

[StubbornPuppet]

in hawken or windows?

in hawken it does not work. I can remap them and the settings accept the remap, ingame however the stick is dead.

I found a couple of complains that the left tumbstick on the xbox controller stopped working in hawken after the release on steam.

 

Well... crap.  It still worked for me about 2 months ago, the last time I played.

[Pleasure_Mortar]

Well... crap.  It still worked for me about 2 months ago, the last time I played.

since there hasn't been a clientside patch it still has to work for you.

do you use an xbox 360 controller?

 

https://community.pl...-compatibility/

Edited by Pleasure_Mortar, 19 October 2015 - 01:46 PM.

[Nov8tr]

This is some gifs of  WmMoney trying to play Hawken.....................ROFLMAO!!!

 

 

and another one,,,,,,,,,,hehe

 

Edited by Nov8tr, 19 October 2015 - 02:01 PM.

[WmMoneyFrmMissouri]

Nononono, I'm a tabby cat if I'm any cat, not some broke black and white Mittens. That cat does have my mouse grip down though not gonna lie.

Edited by WmMoneyFrmMissouri, 19 October 2015 - 02:58 PM.

[Pleasure_Mortar]

reseting the controls helped with the controller issue, but i'm not a big fan. i like the smooth transitions, but I can dodge much faster with teh keyboard.

[Pleasure_Mortar]

The more I understand the game and the more I use hawken.heroku.app the more I realize how broken the match making is.

All week long 3 star rated servers consisted of one or two 2300+ players stomping everyone and the rest below 1500.

I played quite a lot recently and I had about 5 or 6 decent games in the last week where the game was balanced and the majority of players where at my MMR.

There is no chance to improve when the few players tear everything apart and the rest is still figuring out how to dodge.

On top of that the hit reg on the amsterdam servers is plain fuzzy bunny, everybody complains about it and yet there are twice the number of amsterdam severs populated than frankfurt.

I'm really sick of it.

Edited by Pleasure_Mortar, 20 October 2015 - 01:29 PM.

[WmMoneyFrmMissouri]

Hmmm, weird. I've been having a lot of fairly balanced matches last few days. Lots of DAKKADAKKADAKKA and fun to be had. Similar though where you know 2 guys are the high end of the mmr but for some reason matches been very close, especially in siege. Maybe I'm getting lucky.

[Pleasure_Mortar]

I think its a thing thats mostly happening around 1800 MMR. Might be even something that's only happening on EU servers.

Edited by Pleasure_Mortar, 20 October 2015 - 01:29 PM.

[Sorroritas]

The more I understand the game and the more I use hawken.heroku.app the more I realize how broken the match making is.

All week long 3 star rated servers consisted of one or two 2300+ players stomping everyone and the rest below 1500.

 

I know what you mean.

Spoiler

 

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But there's not much you can do about it.

 

Try balancing something like this

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Edited by Sorroritas, 20 October 2015 - 02:33 PM.

[WillyW]

Yeah, I've been stuck at ~2000-2050 for awhile now, personally. I wasn't stuck at ~1800 for too long (I broke 1900 and 2000 after I joined a clan, actually; it works!).

But I can't seem to figure out how to get to 2100, and beyond.

I feel you there. I'm in the exact same boat, though, I fully acknowledge the main reason for that is because I refuse to git gud with burst mechs.

[WillyW]

Playing on basicly the same system since '07, getting avg fps 25-40 on medium settings. Though I did upgrade my gpu last year to a r2 290x...it's like having it in a straight jacket and Vista isn't any help either.

 

Gotta love that 775 socket & X48 Gigabyte board, both are like a Timex and built like a tank.....New system planned for FY '16.

 

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Dooood.

I'm running a Intel E8400, 8GB (DDR3), and a GTX 650. The board I'm using is a secret. ;) But it is one of the few that offers DDR3.

Long live the LGA775! :D

[Silverfire]

Dooood.

I'm running a Intel E8400, 8GB (DDR3), and a GTX 650. The board I'm using is a secret. ;) But it is one of the few that offers DDR3.

Long live the LGA775! :D

Gigabyte EP45C-UD3R?

[StubbornPuppet]

I think its a thing thats mostly happening around 1800 MMR. Might be even something that's only happening on EU servers.

 

I will confirm this - at least from all of my experience.  It has always been this way, it's not just the recent change to matchmaking.

 

It has to do with being so 'average'.  1800-2000 is right in the middle of the "Skill-Gap".

 

What you can sit and witness happening is that you join a server which either has a few high MMR or, more often, a few lower MMR players.  Just by joining, you have now either raised or lowered the SRD so that it is within range of players on either side of the gap.  And when a lower or a higher player within that range joins... BAM, they just opened it up to the people above or below them.

 

So, what I think is really "broken" (I don't like that word, because that's not really accurate) is that the matchmaking and balancer do not work for the people in the middle.  It's all geared to cater to the people on the high end and the low end - so that they can more easily find matches.  But by ignoring the middle-of-the-road players... well, it's just messed up.

[Hyginos]

So, what I think is really "broken" (I don't like that word, because that's not really accurate) is that the matchmaking and balancer do not work for the people in the middle.  It's all geared to cater to the people on the high end and the low end - so that they can more easily find matches.  But by ignoring the middle-of-the-road players... well, it's just messed up.

 

The problems you describe are the result of a failure to deal with the fringe cases, not as a result of pandering to them.

[WillyW]

Gigabyte EP45C-UD3R?

 

Nope. But I'll give you a hint. My motherboard has the Intel G43 and has only 4xDDR3 slots. The key is that it has on-board HDMI... you'll almost never find that. Hehehe.

Edited by WillyW, 21 October 2015 - 07:09 AM.

[JackVandal]

I think its a thing thats mostly happening around 1800 MMR. Might be even something that's only happening on EU servers.

Generally speaking 1800 to 2000 is matchmaking hell, as mentioned by puppet, you get dumped in either a high or low server, and swing the average enough for the other side to get in, and that usually results in fuzzy bunny, i still think the match maker should take the range or mode of mmr into account, to prevent this a little more. 

 

i also find that depending on a team can really change your mmr, a team with no backup can really tank your mmr, but help as a player to a degree, because you learn how to take unfavorable odds.

[StubbornPuppet]

The problems you describe are the result of a failure to deal with the fringe cases, not as a result of pandering to them.

 

Your right also.  But the 'failure to deal with' the high and low mmr players is in how they are dealt with.

[TheButtSatisfier]

Your right also.  But the 'failure to deal with' the high and low mmr players is in how they are dealt with.

 

Or they thought that the issue could most efficiently, effectively, and economically dealt with by trying to increase Hawken's population through hiring people to create new content.

 

Which is what they're doing.

[spr1nterJam]

TheButtSatisfier see this Anichkov3 reply https://community.pl...fix/#entry54571

you know smurfs are bad

do not try to deny it

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

TheButtSatisfier see this Anichkov3 reply https://community.pl...fix/#entry54571

you know smurfs are bad

do not try to deny it

 

 

Is SprinterJam your main or an alt?