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[capnjosh]

 

New players will now start with a different mech - the Assault.  And this time they will have a full loadout of items and internals.  The CR-T will continue to exist, so it's not going away.  We will be adding it as a purchasable mech very soon.

 

Here's what I'm hoping this change will do:

1. Change things up a little bit

2. Attempt to alleviate "pay 2 win" impressions

3. Make new users live a little longer

4. Make it more clear to new users what's available in the game

 

If you have a chance, ask new users what they think of Hawken.  I'm hoping you will notice a pattern of new users having a slightly different set of impressions.

 

Here's the rundown:

 

Mech:

Assault

 

Items Loadout: 

MG Turret - 2 slot

Repair Chart - 2 slot

Shield - 2 slot

 

Unlocked Items (in addition to loadout):

Detonator - 3 slot

Repair Charge - 4 slot

Hologram - 4 slot

Disruptor - 4 slot

 

Internals Loadout:

Composite Armor - 1 slot

Deflectors - 2 slot

Extractor - 2 slot

Basic Reconstructor - 1 slot

 

Unlocked Internals (in addition to loadout):

Air Compressor - 3 slot

Replenisher - 3 slot

 

Now, for all existing users who didn't get the benefit of this new mech, what would be a good way to make it more fair?  The easiest thing would be to make a universal code that redeems for this exact mech.  Some people will then have 2 Assaults, so I can see how it may not seem ideal.  HC and XP boost promo codes and events would be another easy way to address it.  I want to hear more thoughts... and I'd like to move on it pretty soon.

[Aregon]

Question: What will happen with all I have spent on my CR-T?

[Silverfire]

I'll take more free mechs honestly. I like having multiples of mechs, but not everyone's the same.  HC boosts are always nice, they will help players get into the game faster too.

[ReEvolve]

Question: What will happen with all I have spent on my CR-T?

 

Your CR-T won't vanish. New players will get an Assault instead of a CR-T.

 

 

On topic: I don't mind not getting anything but I think that most players would enjoy getting a new (fully equipped) mech. That might draw some players back into the game.

Edited by ReEvolve, 31 March 2015 - 01:06 PM.

[Vdragon]

 

Unlocked Internals (in addition to loadout):

Air Compressor - 4 slot

Why.

[Pastorius]

Well done on making a bold move so quickly. Time will tell as to its success I guess? As long as my beloved CRT is still in my garage I'm cool with it. ;)

[Houruck]

Poor Fred deserved better. :'(

 

 

Unlocked Internals (in addition to loadout):

Air Compressor - 4 slot

Oh boy, here we go.

[Milithistorian]

Hmm.... Air compressor default....

Might not be the best idea.

 

 

Edit 2.0: Or maybe give them HC equivalent to the mech+items+internals, so they can spend how they wish

Edited by Milithistorian, 31 March 2015 - 01:33 PM.

[Silverfire]

The biggest issue of the AC given out to new players right away is if they'll know how to use it. My guess is, they won't.  

[capnjosh]

The Air Compressor.  Yeah.  This will undoubtedly make for some loud conversations.  I'm kinda bracing myself for some storminess!

[Dekar]

I'm on board with giving them AC unlocked, cause notice it's not in the starting loadout. Newbies will likely play for a while without changing much, and then they can manually add it on and test out one of the more complex mech mechanics later. I think it's a good idea to help raise skill level of new players without requiring a monetary investment. 

[BaronSaturday]

The Air Compressor. Yeah. This will undoubtedly make for some loud conversations. I'm kinda bracing myself for some storminess!

I'm sure DerMax will have something to say as he seems to believe he can make CapnJosh do anything.

Edited by SaturdayGhede, 31 March 2015 - 01:26 PM.

[Hunt3rKill3r]

So, I'm still stuck in my toaster oven while new players get to pawn me with a fully outfitted better Mech.  

[Outsdarva]

I think vets should get to choose a free mech from these three: Raider, Infiltrator, and Brawler

[yerkithoz16]

PRESENTE KMA HOY EN LA NOCHE NOS ESCHAMOS UNAS PARTIDAS PARA SEGUIR PRACTICANDO

[ROBOT120807]

Good call on this.
And to answer your question, I'd prefer an HC boost of some kind. 

[BaronSaturday]

How much does this mech and all of it's internals cost? Create a code and send out an email with that much HC/MC in it.

[GondabBadong]

I wouldn't mind getting a code for the mech I don't have yet :O, I mean I'm new, but not *Hasn't played the game yet* new.

[Snipertech]

I have 3 friends who just joined Hawken for the first time around a week before this update. What would be the best way for them to gain the free Assault; wait till the aforementioned redeem code is considered, or delete their accounts and start again? (They haven't played too much, only an hour or 2 at most)

[Aregon]

I'm sure DerMax will have something to say as he seems to believe he can make CapnJosh do anything.

Please no call-outs.

 

If you want to discuss it, please make a thread and challenge him. But not here.

[McScotcherson]

I wouldn't mind an offer of a free mech of similar value. Give us a choice of one mech and have a list of 3 mechs, one from each class. 

[Siege_Knight]

Maybe players who already have accounts can get the hc equivalent to what these newbies are getting. We can buy whatever we need with it.

[GeneralJWJ]

I wouldn't mind an offer of a free mech of similar value. Give us a choice of one mech and have a list of 3 mechs, one from each class. 

I like this idea.

[Guns_N_Rozer]

going to open a smurf account 

[capnjosh]

I have 3 friends who just joined Hawken for the first time around a week before this update. What would be the best way for them to gain the free Assault; wait till the aforementioned redeem code is considered, or delete their accounts and start again? (They haven't played too much, only an hour or 2 at most)

 

I think it's pretty obvoius a promo code that redeems for this mech is a good idea.  I'll start on that very soon.

[KilleR_OrigiNs]

Redacted.

Edited by KilleR_OrigiNs, 30 April 2015 - 09:40 PM.

[wolfrock]

Great move but after a few hundred hours I realized bare CR-T > Assault :)

[BaronSaturday]

How much does this mech and all of it's internals cost? Create a code and send out an email with that much HC/MC in it.

HC=15380
MC=1642

I'll take half of each.

[Silverfire]

I think a viable solution to the qualms stated due to new players starting already (and not getting this mech) and players who want compensation for the new mech granted.

 

1. Give a code that grants all users the mech.

2. Grant a universal HC boost over a period of time AND/OR a code that grants users a decent amount of HC (give players option of picking one or the other).

 

 

But there also needs to be an incentive to purchase a Fred.

Edited by Silverfire, 31 March 2015 - 01:49 PM.

[Panzermanathod]

I think the free mech could be an unlockable. Nothing too high, but nothing that would make new players go. "Why even use this boobtube looking mech beyond Training?"

[Elite_is_salty]

HC=15380
MC=1642

I'll take half of each.

 

Hell no you get nothing.

 

With this move, you're getting the equivalent of dozens of thousands of HC, and thousands of MC. Remember that this assault will be available to all via a code soon.

[DM30]

Should be interesting to see what effects this change has. I like it.

[Leonhardt]

Since the items, mechs and internals given are all free I think its best that the promo code given to players includes close to if not the exact amount of HC that all of the items new users now enjoy adds up to. That way anybody who started before this change can still enjoy the benefits of the change even if they already have the gear that the change would have supplied them.

[BaronSaturday]

Hell no you get nothing.

 

With this move, you're getting the equivalent of dozens of thousands of HC, and thousands of MC. Remember that this assault will be available to all via a code soon.

I have zero use for the Assault.  I cannot pilot anything other than the tech because I have a problem where my hands shake uncontrollably.  I'll take my HC and or MC.  Thanks for the input though.

[HorseHeadProphet]

Cool. Agree with adding air compressor, but not as default. This encourages players to experiment with differnt loadouts and internals.

 

For players that signed up before this change, issue an code with that amount of HC equivalent to the cost of that mech with all those parts. Or even dare I say.... MC?

[EchoJester]

A code for a duplicate mech i like,just think two the same mechs two different loadouts setup vs unsuspecting victims thinking they got you figured out

I want two reapers or two infiltrators oh howmuch fun we could have :)

[MomOw]

Yeah !

 

[capnjosh]

Ok... for starters here's a promo code that redeems for the same fully-loaded Assault that new users get:  LOADEDASSAULT

 

More fun to come.  After all, I hear there is a "Project Phoenix" thing some players are putting together this week ;)

[GMKGoat]

Unlocking, but not equipping, the AC was a smart move. Still think just modifying the Recruit would have been a better long term option, but this is fine too.

[Sylhiri]

Ok... for starters here's a promo code that redeems for the same fully-loaded Assault that new users get:  LOADEDASSAULT

 

Hammertime.

Edited by Sylhiri, 31 March 2015 - 02:10 PM.