What is/are my bottle neck(s) of system requirements and fps problems
#1
Posted June 24 2014 - 04:49 AM
Windows 8
Processor: AMD A10-5745M APU with radeon HD graphics 2.10 GHz
RAM: 8.00 GB (7.20 GB usable)
64-bit operating system
radeon dual graphics
graphics has 5179 MB
I tried everything to increase fps, without going overboard and getting a Plasticine looking game, and that includes lowering the video settings and editing the .ini files in Hawkensystemsettings and hawkenengine.
If there's nothing left for me to do, then I might stop playing because of this low fps, oh and regarding the jagged movement, when I do the shift+s or the 180 turn, it occasionally freezes for a split second and speeds up to catch up to my movement. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
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Posted June 24 2014 - 05:04 AM
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#3
Posted June 24 2014 - 05:11 AM
I went i5/nvidia.
#4
Posted June 24 2014 - 05:38 AM
#5
Posted June 24 2014 - 06:04 AM
I always recommend going with a standalone card if possible. Much better performance and reduces bottlenecks. However, you can still get one if your CPU just cannot keep the GPU fed, PCIe bandwidth limitations (running a top end card on an x4 link for example), so and so on.
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#6
Posted June 24 2014 - 06:28 AM
Hawken Minimum System Requirements
OS: Windows XP/Windows Vista/Windows 7 32bit or 64bit
CPU: 2Ghz Dual Core
RAM: 3GB of Memory
GPU RAM: 512MB Graphics card supporting DirectX 9.0c and Shader Model 3.0
GPU: nVidia 9800 GTX or AMD HD 5670
HDD: 5GB
NET: Broadband connection
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Mine:
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
AMD8350 @4.2gHz (I'd go higher, but it's aircooled...)
16gB ram
hd7750 1gB gpu @900/1250mHz running @"medium" (LastEco makes "high" give me motion sickness)
Barracuda 1TB hdd
5Mb/s cable
scavenging some stuff (bluray, 2 fans, 8gB ram) from an old box, this setup ran me slightly over $500 USD from a major discount electronics online store.
it barely qualifies as "midrange" in the Recommended category. You're big issue will always be the GPU. If I had a bigger piggy bank, I'd get one of the awesome new nVidia cards. And a windowbox A/C for the room....
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Edited by EM1O, June 24 2014 - 06:47 AM.
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#7
Posted June 24 2014 - 06:35 AM
1. Problem is your APU, CPU&GPU Unit are both not strong enough to handle this game
2. with better RAM (i dont know, what you have), you get more performance, because APU's get faster with faster Ram, like 1866/2133 (you can goole for some tests)
3. this game is all about Nvidia, so if you want a good gameexperience, you need a very strong AMD Card, or a Mid Nvidia Card
For example, i run the game on this system: Intel 2500K@4.5Ghz | AMD 7850 2GB @1.2Ghz (normal 0.86Ghz), my card is as fast as the AMD 7870 <-> 7950. But i dont have in every situation or map 60fps forever, it drops from time to time, depend on how much is going on and which map i play (Last Eco has terrible performance).
So, you need a powerful AMD Graphicscard, or a decent Nvidia Card to run this game smoothly. I dont know, if your APU CPU can handle this game for sure, you have to test it, if not, it will become a bottleneck for your graphicscard (CPU too slow, graphicscard cant use all the power it have). You, if you have bad luck, you have to buy a new system (Mainboard/CPU/GPU).
If you dont knw what to buy
AMD: AMD 280 - best solution in price/performance and future (3GB V-Ram)
Nvidia: GTX 780 - expensive, but much power and 3GB V-Ram (for example, Watch Dogs needs 3GB) - the decent card would be a GTX 760
Alternativ
If you dont have the money to buy a new GPU or something more, even new ram, you could try to minimize the fps spikes to a minimum with MSI Afterburner. Install this tool and use rivatunerstaticsserver -> Framerate Limit -> 30
30fps isnt that fun, but its better to have more a constant framerate than a framerate jumps high&down. Hope i could help you out a little bit
Kind Regards,
Galaxy Radio
Edited by GalaxyRadio, June 24 2014 - 06:42 AM.
#8
Posted June 24 2014 - 06:56 AM
Polarous74, on June 24 2014 - 04:49 AM, said:
Polarous74, on June 24 2014 - 04:49 AM, said:
1. You're running a mobile APU, so I'm assuming that you're running on a laptop, which means upgrades other than hard drive and RAM are mostly out of the question. If you can, as others suggested, get higher speed RAM.
2. You also mentioned radeon dual graphics - do you also have a discrete GPU_ Some laptops do ship with such a configuration, and if yours is the case, I suggest disabling any sort of dual graphics/hybrid crossfire options in your Catalyst Control Center. If you're unsure of your specs and don't know where to look, you can use Speccy. https://www.piriform.com/speccy
3. Assuming that you're running a laptop, please get a cooling pad if you haven't already.
#9
Posted June 24 2014 - 09:04 AM
GalaxyRadio, on June 24 2014 - 06:35 AM, said:
1. Problem is your APU, CPU&GPU Unit are both not strong enough to handle this game
2. with better RAM (i dont know, what you have), you get more performance, because APU's get faster with faster Ram, like 1866/2133 (you can goole for some tests)
3. this game is all about Nvidia, so if you want a good gameexperience, you need a very strong AMD Card, or a Mid Nvidia Card
For example, i run the game on this system: Intel 2500K@4.5Ghz | AMD 7850 2GB @1.2Ghz (normal 0.86Ghz), my card is as fast as the AMD 7870 <-> 7950. But i dont have in every situation or map 60fps forever, it drops from time to time, depend on how much is going on and which map i play (Last Eco has terrible performance).
So, you need a powerful AMD Graphicscard, or a decent Nvidia Card to run this game smoothly. I dont know, if your APU CPU can handle this game for sure, you have to test it, if not, it will become a bottleneck for your graphicscard (CPU too slow, graphicscard cant use all the power it have). You, if you have bad luck, you have to buy a new system (Mainboard/CPU/GPU).
If you dont knw what to buy
AMD: AMD 280 - best solution in price/performance and future (3GB V-Ram)
Nvidia: GTX 780 - expensive, but much power and 3GB V-Ram (for example, Watch Dogs needs 3GB) - the decent card would be a GTX 760
Alternativ
If you dont have the money to buy a new GPU or something more, even new ram, you could try to minimize the fps spikes to a minimum with MSI Afterburner. Install this tool and use rivatunerstaticsserver -> Framerate Limit -> 30
30fps isnt that fun, but its better to have more a constant framerate than a framerate jumps high&down. Hope i could help you out a little bit
Kind Regards,
Galaxy Radio
#10
Posted June 24 2014 - 09:08 AM
xeroslash, on June 24 2014 - 06:56 AM, said:
Polarous74, on June 24 2014 - 04:49 AM, said:
Polarous74, on June 24 2014 - 04:49 AM, said:
1. You're running a mobile APU, so I'm assuming that you're running on a laptop, which means upgrades other than hard drive and RAM are mostly out of the question. If you can, as others suggested, get higher speed RAM.
2. You also mentioned radeon dual graphics - do you also have a discrete GPU_ Some laptops do ship with such a configuration, and if yours is the case, I suggest disabling any sort of dual graphics/hybrid crossfire options in your Catalyst Control Center. If you're unsure of your specs and don't know where to look, you can use Speccy. https://www.piriform.com/speccy
3. Assuming that you're running a laptop, please get a cooling pad if you haven't already.
Edited by Polarous74, June 24 2014 - 09:08 AM.
#11
Posted June 24 2014 - 11:22 AM
Polarous74, on June 24 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:
I don't own such a laptop but take a look at this to see if it helps. The general idea is to force the laptop to use your discrete GPU rather than have it use a mix of both and/or default to the integrated GPU.
http://h10025.www1.h...c=en&lc=en#N625
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