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[Hyginos]

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

Hawken IS an awesome and exceptional game. That's not the problem here.

[ScarletThirteen]

So, I guess we'll all be playing MechWarrior Online in the near future_

That said, going through three or probably four completely different metagame changes in just under a year sounds like a good way to spend one's time:
- I wasn't around before the Techie patch, but from user consensus it sounds like it completely changed the game.
- Ascension is nearly universally reviled.
- Steam patch is a thing.
- The subtle buff to heavies finally made them viable... a little too much, actually.

[hoghead]

Sure hope this is just a bump in the road, kinda sad to invest about 2 years in this great game and new friends and it all goes away.

Edited by hoghead, August 18 2014 - 02:22 PM.

[Duralumi]

rip in peacerino hawken

I'd like to think if you didn't waste the majority, if not all of your marketing budget on the alpha, things would've turned out differently.
Also Tech was, is, and always will be a cancer upon the game at higher-level play.

ScarletThirteen, on August 18 2014 - 09:12 AM, said:

So, I guess we'll all be playing MechWarrior Online in the near future_

Like hell I'd touch that pile of broken promises and dreams.

Edited by Duralumi, August 18 2014 - 09:21 AM.

[UCC0]

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

Why be spiteful about it though_ Yes, of course, the devs make the decisions. They, primarily, make the game succeed or fail, but to be glad of the failure of an excellent game with thousands upon thousands of hours of work put into it for the usage of a phenomenal community_ What are you, satan_

I might be a satan... but where did you in between lines read or something that I'm even slightest glad that Hawken flopped_

[TheVulong]

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

[UCC0]

TheVulong, on August 18 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

Yes... you want a short clarification_

[ticklemyiguana]

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

Why be spiteful about it though_ Yes, of course, the devs make the decisions. They, primarily, make the game succeed or fail, but to be glad of the failure of an excellent game with thousands upon thousands of hours of work put into it for the usage of a phenomenal community_ What are you, satan_

I might be a satan... but where did you in between lines read or something that I'm even slightest glad that Hawken flopped_

Just... you... You just said you agreed... with... huh_ This. This is what you agreed with.

Razataz, on August 18 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

Anyone else kinda glad this is happening to the dev team_ I mean they have no one to blame for Hawken's failure but themselves.

Razataz, on August 18 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

Razataz, on August 18 2014 - 08:50 AM, said:

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 08:18 AM, said:

Razataz, on August 18 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

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I've actually been here since the alpha, so I am familiar with what a lot of people think, granted not all think the same, but I know what a lot of people think about the game. Can you give an example of a game with a similar pricing model that worked out_ Perhaps the model works for some, but the pricing was way over the top in Hawken.

I was/am assuming you meant the free to play- pay for cosmetics and other things that are available in game that you wouldn't have to pay for. I would go ahead and say most valve multiplayer games work like that, even the ones you pay for.

[TheVulong]

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

TheVulong, on August 18 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

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Yes... you want a short clarification_

No need. I share you point of view it's just the way you put your statement that confuses me: "devs make the decisions" - well, yeah, that's what devs are supposed to do.

Edited by TheVulong, August 18 2014 - 09:26 AM.

[SKamikazee]

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

TheVulong, on August 18 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

Yes... you want a short clarification_

Edited by SKamikazee, August 18 2014 - 09:28 AM.

[UCC0]

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 09:22 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

Why be spiteful about it though_ Yes, of course, the devs make the decisions. They, primarily, make the game succeed or fail, but to be glad of the failure of an excellent game with thousands upon thousands of hours of work put into it for the usage of a phenomenal community_ What are you, satan_

I might be a satan... but where did you in between lines read or something that I'm even slightest glad that Hawken flopped_

Just... you... You just said you agreed... with... huh_ This. This is what you agreed with.

Razataz, on August 18 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

Anyone else kinda glad this is happening to the dev team_ I mean they have no one to blame for Hawken's failure but themselves.

See... I said I kinda agree... and see my post... I didn't quote Razataz' post... on purpose.

[ScarletThirteen]

Arevizz, on August 18 2014 - 05:37 AM, said:

"20 millions won`t get you long in the video game business."
-BradersVal

Slightly Mad Studios would like to differ, but then again, tracing cars from CAD and high-res blueprints is far easier than building a sci-fi weapons platform.
(That said, still not easy!)

Edited by ScarletThirteen, August 18 2014 - 09:29 AM.

[DerMax]

Would be nice if you moved to another thread with your bollocks to make room for what this thread is actually about.

Also, tickle, your know-it-all attitude is ridiculous. You've been around for several months, yet you claim to know more than some of the veterans. Guess what_ You don't.

[UCC0]

TheVulong, on August 18 2014 - 09:25 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:

TheVulong, on August 18 2014 - 09:17 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

gif

Yes... you want a short clarification_

No need. I share you point of view it's just the way you put your statement that confuses me: "devs make the decisions" - well, yeah, that's what devs are supposed to do.

And some design decisions so bad that they let them destroy the project... and on their decisions so stubborn that they won't even reconsider some of them...

Edited by UCC0, August 18 2014 - 09:37 AM.

[ticklemyiguana]

DerMax, on August 18 2014 - 09:29 AM, said:

Would be nice if you moved to another thread with your bollocks to make room for what this thread is actually about.

Also, tickle, your know-it-all attitude is ridiculous. You've been around for several months, yet you claim to know more than some of the veterans. Guess what_ You don't.

I didn't know he had been around since alpha, but I still made the statement that I likely have more exposure to the community, and I would still stand by that statement. Are you positive you want to start baselessly attacking members in the forums_

I mean.. seriously. The same post. In the same. damn. post. You ask to move this elsewhere.

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:28 AM, said:

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 09:22 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

Why be spiteful about it though_ Yes, of course, the devs make the decisions. They, primarily, make the game succeed or fail, but to be glad of the failure of an excellent game with thousands upon thousands of hours of work put into it for the usage of a phenomenal community_ What are you, satan_

I might be a satan... but where did you in between lines read or something that I'm even slightest glad that Hawken flopped_

Just... you... You just said you agreed... with... huh_ This. This is what you agreed with.

Razataz, on August 18 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

Anyone else kinda glad this is happening to the dev team_ I mean they have no one to blame for Hawken's failure but themselves.

See... I said I kinda agree... and see my post... I didn't quote Razataz' post... on purpose.

Understandable. It was not clear which part/parts you agreed with.

Edited by ticklemyiguana, August 18 2014 - 09:44 AM.

[Onebullit]

[Sylhiri]

In any case, it's pretty bad when it gets to "dev stalker" mode.

I've only seen this once before with a little company called Nexon.

[UCC0]

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 09:38 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:28 AM, said:

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 09:22 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

ticklemyiguana, on August 18 2014 - 09:09 AM, said:

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 09:05 AM, said:

Kinda agree with Razataz... Hawken could have been an awesome or exceptional game... but no.  

Devs make the decisions...

Why be spiteful about it though_ Yes, of course, the devs make the decisions. They, primarily, make the game succeed or fail, but to be glad of the failure of an excellent game with thousands upon thousands of hours of work put into it for the usage of a phenomenal community_ What are you, satan_

I might be a satan... but where did you in between lines read or something that I'm even slightest glad that Hawken flopped_

Just... you... You just said you agreed... with... huh_ This. This is what you agreed with.

Razataz, on August 18 2014 - 08:09 AM, said:

Anyone else kinda glad this is happening to the dev team_ I mean they have no one to blame for Hawken's failure but themselves.

See... I said I kinda agree... and see my post... I didn't quote Razataz' post... on purpose.

Understandable. It was not clear which part/parts you agreed with.

Yes - almost half the blame is on this side I admit, I do that sometimes. Sadly my language/representation skills fails on me often since english is far from my native language.
Apologize accepted (even if it might not been that)... but that part me being satan I take as a compliment

[ticklemyiguana]

UCC0, on August 18 2014 - 10:13 AM, said:

Yes - almost half the blame is on this side I admit, I do that sometimes. Sadly my language/representation skills fails on me often since english is far from my native language.
Apologize accepted (even if it might not been that)... but that part me being satan I take as a compliment

No, it certainly was an admission of my own part in it and an apology. Thanks.

[EliteShooter]

Anyway, this will end up being a thing to remember and laugh at it's all good man, HAWKEN is fine. As long as 600 people are still playing, and not 60.