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[BIsmuthZornisse]

This thread is for my suggestions for actually new things, as opposed to my other thread which is concerned with suggestions for fixing things already in the game.
Regarding my attached sketches. Their just simple sketches, not indicative of how they should look in the game, they would need to be adjusted to hawken's art direction.

MECHS

Spoiler

Stats are from highest to lowest.
Guardian (C-Class Defense)
Projectile blocking unit
Stats:
Overheat>armor>radar>ground speed>fuel tank>boost speed>fuel regeneration>air speed

Ability: Barrier turret
Using the barrier projector in mode 1 (see below), it creates a Barrier roughly 3 C-Classes wide and 2 C-Classes high, projected a little over 1 C-Class in front of the mech. If in an narrow area or with too low a ceiling, the mech instead creates a barrier like outside of turret mode except without a gap to shoot through. When changing between such areas, the barrier disappears and a barrier with the new size is created. There is half a second of downtime during this transition, allowing the mech to be shot from the front.
While in turret mode, shots landed on the barrier generate much less heat. The turret mode itself should offer minimal damage reduction (if any at all).

Lefthanded weapons:
Pointdefense Vulcan
Assault Rifle
Shrapnel cannon/”Flak”
Righthanded weapons:
Barrier projector C
Mode 1: Creates barrier that covers the front of the mech, except for a horizontal slit to allow your own weapon to fire through. The enemy should be able to shoot through this gap. When barrier is hit, instead of damage, user receives heat that should be proportional to the prevented damage (i.e. a stronger projectile should create more heat than a weak one). The breacher and the g2sharpie's ability can penetrate this barrier.
Mode 2: Shoots a projectile, creates a floating barrier on impact that has a small fraction of the "barrier" item's health and automatically dissipates after 2 seconds. Long reload time, damage shouldn't be too high.

Starting item:
Barrier

Knight (B-Class Assault)
Advancing barrier unit
Meant to be able to break into enemy lines like vanguard, but a little more defensive overall
Stats:
Overheat>ground speed>armor>fuel tank>air speed>radar>fuel regeneration>boost speed

Ability: Coolant K
Like the assault's coolant, except it only prevents heat generation of the barrier projector, but has 150% of the normal coolant's duration.

Lefthanded weapons:
Sub machine cannon
Mini shrapnel cannon/Mini”flak”
Pile bayonet
When button is tapped: Fires salvo of 5 shots, then reloads
When button is held: Pile driver activates. Reach is maybe half an a class. Deals very high damage and applies the ism effect to the target(doesn't have the ism-item's splash). Generates somewhat high heat, reload time should be like the slug rifle's. Shots can be fired while pile driver cools down/”reloads”.
Righthanded weapon:
Barrier projector B
The barrier is slightly smaller (because B-Class is smaller than C-Class), produces maybe 1% less heat when used in mode 2.

Starting item:
Shield


Recon (B-Class Support) aka Hon
Reconnaissance unit
Stats:
Radar>ground speed>armor>overheat>boost speed>air speed>fuel tank>fuel regeneration

Ability:
Ping and jam
When ability is activated, the entire team, including user, is pinged the location of all enemies within this mech's radar range. Half a second after activation, the mech has a scrambler effect on the enemies' mechs, centered on its position, for several seconds.

Left weapons:
T-32
Submachinecannon
AM-SAR

Right Weapon:
Recon-rifle
Mode 1: Tracker
Target, when hit, becomes afflicted with "tracked" status for a few seconds, being displayed on user's team's minimap, even if invisible. Almost sniper range, but low damage and rate of fire.
Mode 2: Interceptor
Close range lock-on (like Tech's repair torch) cable. Hit deals a little damage and target's teams positions are displayed for user's team for as long as connected. pressing fire button again to retract cable. if connection is broken by target moving out of range or by changing firing mode, cable detaches from user and explodes, dealing a little damage. reload time is longer in that case than if cable was retracted by user.
Starting item: Portable scanner

 

Striker (C-Class Assassination)

Precise elimination unit

 

Aerodynamics>Generator>Boost>Fuel tank>Radar>Cooling units>Hydraulics>Armor

 

Ability:

Blue flash

If button is held: Transforms into turret; as soon as transformation is finished, a blue hitscan cone is emitted forwards from the shields. Enemies within the cone receive an ism-disruptor-effect. The cone lasts for a fraction of a second (just enough to be visible); the mech immediately untransforms when flash ends.

If button is tapped: No transformation, cone is emitted upwards.

Creates heat and can't be used when overheated. Has long cooldown.

 

Lefthanded weapons:

Slug rifle

Heavy precision vulcan

Mid-to-long-range, precise rapid fire weapon that deals decent damage, but the weapon generates heat VERY quickly. You won't be able to fire it much longer than five seconds at a time. Has short spin-up time.

Redox-O2

Since reduction and oxidization are electron-based, I thought it would it should go to the lightning mech. Now your electrolaser will hurt even more!

Righthanded weapon:

Lightningrod cannon

Mode 1:

Fire ionization projectile. Firing rate should be similiar to sabot. Ionization should last between 10 to 25 seconds, due to time needed for mode change and winding up.

Mode 2:

Has long (2 sec?) spinup. After spinup, if no ionized target is in range, will keep "spinning" and build up heat.

If an ionized enemy is within a cone with a narrow aperture and about ke-sabot range, it shoots a powerful hitscan electrolaser, causes an emp-effect on the enemy, and the weapon generates immense heat (at least 40%). The actual “laser” only lasts a split second, like a lightning strike.

 

Starting item:

ism disruptor

G2 MECHS

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G2 Sharpshooter (B-Class Ranged) aka Civ
Basically, i just want the civ-model to be officially assigned, and i think i read that civ used to be used as the default sharpshooter model in alpha phase, so there.
Stats:
Fuel tank>air speed>boost speed>overheat>radar>fuel regeneration>ground speed>Armor
Ability: G2 Power shot
Slightly weaker version of G1 Sharpshooter's ability, but while it is active, shots can penetrate shields (like charged breacher)
Right weapon:
KE-Sabot G2ss
Left weapons:
1: Slug rifle G2ss
2. Breacher G2ss
Uncharged shot should have narrower spreas and longer effective range than standard version
3: HEAT Cannon G2ss
This version of the HEAT should have an increased reload time and, to compensate, either increased damage or a larger explosion radius.

Starting item: Holoprojector mk2

G2 Rocketeer (C-Class Suppression)
Aerial Anti-Ground
Stats: AirSpeed>FuelRegeneration>FuelTank>BoostSpeed>Overheat>GroundSpeed>Radar>Armor

Ability: "Erasure" warhead
Fires a missile with “shield arms” as railgun in line of sight, explodes on hit or after pressing the ability button again. Explosion is emp range and persist for a few seconds, deal 1 damage per frame, cause 2 second ism ailment and nullifies any projectile passing through. Has a long cool down (like Tech's ability)

Lefthanded weapons:
EOC Floater
Projectile slows down significantly after being fired. explodes on contact, does not stick to surfaces. The explosives extend long feelers along all axes after slowing down. Fires 1 projectile if uncharged, can be charged for up to 4 projectiles.
Ground Seeker
Flies down towards ground in strong arc, then flies slightly above ground towards targets "horizontal position" (meaning it disregards height of target's position) with locked-on hellfire-like curving ability. Flies straight forward after passing target's horizontal position. Only tracks targets that are in reticle's center at point of firing (like normal seeker). Does not actually turn towards target until "hitting" the ground. If no target is acquired, it will fly in a straight line when “grounded”.
Delayed-explosive cannon
When the projectile hits the enemy or environment, it deals the impact damage, but does not immediately explode. Instead it sticks to enemy or environment and explodes 2 seconds later. Because of this delay, the explosion should probably deal more damage than the HEAT cannon's.
Righthanded Weapon:
Multilock-missile launcher
Hold alternate secondary mode button to lock onto targets. Up to five targets, same target can be locked onto multiple times, but there is a half second gap between each lock. Lock-on lasts only 5 seconds from first target. Will fire as many missiles as there are target locks (up to five), one in quick succession
If no targets locked onto, fires one missile straight ahead (like tow, without remote detonation), reload time depends on number of missiles fired.

Starting item: Rocket turret mk2

G2 Incinerator (A-Class Support)
Longrange suppression and support unit

Passive heat absorption is stronger. Howerver, when no heat is generated, it loses the heat (like other mechs would), due to the lower volume-to-surface ratio.

Stats:
Overheat>radar>fuel tank>fuel regeneration>armor>boost speed>air speed>ground speed

Ability: Heat dispersal 2
Like the g1 incinerator's ability (it uses specialized “arm” pieces) BUT is not immobilized and deals no damage, only heat.

Righthanded weapon:
Variable Flamethrower
Mode 1:Fires an arcing stream of ignited gel, hit enemies catch fire and build up heat over time.
Mode 2: Fires a gel-generator, itself embedded in ignited gel, in an arc. It effectively functions like a heat charge, but can stick to walls or ceiling. If an enemy is hit, the target takes light damage, and essentially has a heat charge stuck to it (like it used to be possible for shields). Uses probably around 50% heat per shot, middling reload time.
Lefthanded weapons:
TG-Stylet L
Long-range rotary cannon, long spin up, middling damage, average heat generation
TG-Stylet AF
Semi-long-range rotary cannon, very long spin up, high heat generation, very low damage, hits increase target's heat by 1%
TG-Stylet AM
Mid-range rotary cannon, long spin up, good damage, very high heat generation

I always wanted a rapidfiring (like assault rifle-rate) long range weapon, even if it doesn't deal a lot of damage. Since the g1-incinerator's weapons are named after bears, I named this smaller incinerator's after the tardigrades, the water bears, the “stylet” referencing their mouthparts with which they sting into and suck out algae/moss and even smaller animals. L stands for “Larva”, AF for “Adultus femineus”, AF for “Adultus masculus”, to preserve the g1's naming scheme.

MODES
Ace Shooter:
Every player for itself
At first it seems like a normal deathmatch, but then a player lands the killing blow...
When a player destroys an enemy, it becomes the “Ace Shooter”, a status with the following effects:
-Player deals 150% damage/heat, ailments applied to the enemy have 150% duration
-Player's ground speed, boost speed and air speed is 150%
-Player's mech's ability is improved
-Player takes 1% of full health damage every half second. Repair mode is disabled and armor orbs do not restore armor.
-The player's own repair charge will deplete as if it healed the player normally, but instead of armor restoration, the player takes only 0,5% of health damage every half second while within range of the charge.
-If the Ace Shooter destroys another player while the status is active, 25% of your armor is restored

If another player kills the Ace Shooter, the status is transferred to the killer.
If the Ace Shooter runs out of health due to the status' effect, it is not transferred to anyone (unless, the player hit itself between the last hit from enemy and the armor depletion, in which case the status goes to the enemy to land the last hit.)
If a player destroys a non-ace shooter player while a third player is the ace shooter, the kill does not grant ace shooter status.

The goal is to either hold the “ace shooter” status for a specified target amount of time, or to have held it the longest when a time limit runs out. Both conditions should apply during the match, like in team deathmatch

I admit that i'm shamelessly ripping off the ace hunter mode from Metroid Prime: Hunters.

COSMETICS
Repair drones

LOVE-UMBRELLA
RD-KASA
Modeled after the japanese umbrella monster known as karakasa or kasaobake (kasa meaning umbrella).
Should be purple.
RD-RAIN

Suggestions in the works:
Mechs: C-Class Defense Piledriver, A-Class Fu<king annoyance Support "Fairy"(tentative name)
Weapons: "poison dart launcher"(tentative name, obviously won't be poison. maybe a damaging drone that sticks to enemy?), "Tsukiyomi" (a liquid based weapon, because moon affects tide?)
Maps: "Mushroom tower", "Geothermal plant", VR "Abyss' Aquarium"
A bunch of repair drones

Give me feedback.

Edited by BismutZornisse, 17 June 2015 - 08:48 AM.

[HorseHeadProphet]

I can dig it

 

Guardian reminds me very much of the Paladin vehicle from the UT series. It too generated a large energy shield from a turret that could be moved around to deflect incoming fire. You can also fire a slow moving but large energy ball from a secondary barrel on the same turret, to attack the enemy. You can also put the barrier up, and shoot the ball into back of the barrier, creating a large shockwave around the vehicle. It's useful for holding spots but its slow speed made it one of the least used vehicles. What if the Guardian's ability was to release a healing wave for mechs that were around it/hiding by it? The healing would be somewhat weak, maybe 80 HP, but with a mere 20 second cooldown.

[Waspkiller]

:o I love the ideas. :)

[BIsmuthZornisse]

Made following changes

Guardian's righthanded weapon is now Barrier projector C

Knight's righthanded weapon is now Barrier projector B and the ability is Coolant K

 

Added G2 incinerator:

G2 Incinerator (A-Class Support)

Longrange suppression and support unit

 

Passive heat absorption is stronger. Howerver, when no heat is generated, it loses the heat (like other mechs would), due to the lower volume-to-surface ratio.

 

Stats:

Overheat>radar>fuel tank>fuel regeneration>armor>boost speed>air speed>ground speed

 

Ability: Heat dispersal 2

Like the g1 incinerator's ability (it uses specialized “arm” pieces) BUT is not immobilized and deals no damage, only heat.

 

Righthanded weapon:

Variable Flamethrower

Mode 1:Fires an arcing stream of ignited gel, hit enemies catch fire and build up heat over time.

Mode 2: Fires a gel-generator, itself embedded in ignited gel, in an arc. It effectively functions like a heat charge, but can stick to walls or ceiling. If an enemy is hit, the target takes light damage, and essentially has a heat charge stuck to it (like it used to be possible for shields). Uses probably around 50% heat per shot, middling reload time.

Lefthanded weapons:

TG-Stylet L

Long-range rotary cannon, long spin up, middling damage, average heat generation

TG-Stylet AF

Semi-long-range rotary cannon, very long spin up, high heat generation, very low damage, hits increase target's heat by 1%

TG-Stylet AM

Mid-range rotary cannon, long spin up, good damage, very high heat generation

 

I always wanted a rapidfiring (like assault rifle-rate) long range weapon, even if it doesn't deal a lot of damage. Since the g1-incinerator's weapons are named after bears, I named this smaller incinerator's after the tardigrades, the water bears, the “stylet” referencing their mouthparts with which they sting into and suck out algae/moss and even smaller animals. L stands for “Larva”, AF for “Adultus femineus”, AF for “Adultus masculus”, to preserve the g1's naming scheme.

[BIsmuthZornisse]

added 3 repair drones, complete with (poorly drawn) concept sketch.

 

i'm also working on an tracetory indicator concept

i find the current crosshairs to be somewhat misleading, because your weapons aren't held in front of you, but are mounted on your mech's sides, which throws my (already terrible) aim off.

So my solution would be to implement trajectory indicators. they would show where your projectile would go, if it had no deviation and there was nothing blocking your shots. the circle on the left line shows up when anything that would interact with your projectile, the width/diameter being indicative of the possible deviation at that range (it would become larger on further away targets). for bouncing projectiles, like grenades it would only show the initial trajectory, without the bouncing.

The indicators would be part of the pilot's holo visor.

The reason this isn't included in the list in the op, is because i don't know if this should be an option in the cockpit menu, or an internal (a "crutch" internal like the composite armor.)

 

Also, the sketch shows my suggested knight with an active Barrier projector B (showing the opening for the lefthanded weapon), a sub machine cannon, and a fred chassis.

 

Feedback?

 

 

What if the Guardian's ability was to release a healing wave for mechs that were around it/hiding by it? The healing would be somewhat weak, maybe 80 HP, but with a mere 20 second cooldown.

I think that ability would be better suited to a g2 tech, or a forger (an unused b-class in the localization files) or something.

Edited by BismutZornisse, 31 May 2015 - 07:37 AM.

[BIsmuthZornisse]

Added new mech "Striker" (formerly "Lightning") that wields an electrolaser cannon that requires a little setup to use.

 

Striker (C-Class Assassination)

Precise elimination unit

 

Aerodynamics>Generator>Boost>Fuel tank>Radar>Cooling units>Hydraulics>Armor

 

Ability:

Blue flash

If button is held: Transforms into turret; as soon as transformation is finished, a blue hitscan cone is emitted forwards from the shields. Enemies within the cone receive an ism-disruptor-effect. The cone lasts for a fraction of a second (just enough to be visible); the mech immediately untransforms when flash ends.

If button is tapped: No transformation, cone is emitted upwards.

Creates heat and can't be used when overheated. Has long cooldown.

 

Lefthanded weapons:

Slug rifle

Heavy precision vulcan

Mid-to-long-range, precise rapid fire weapon that deals decent damage, but the weapon generates heat VERY quickly. You won't be able to fire it much longer than five seconds at a time. Has short spin-up time.

Redox-O2

Since reduction and oxidization are electron-based, I thought it would it should go to the lightning mech. Now your electrolaser will hurt even more!

Righthanded weapon:

Lightningrod cannon

Mode 1:

Fire ionization projectile. Firing rate should be similiar to sabot. Ionization should last between 10 to 25 seconds, due to time needed for mode change and winding up.

Mode 2:

Has long (2 sec?) spinup. After spinup, if no ionized target is in range, will keep "spinning" and build up heat.

If an ionized enemy is within a cone with a narrow aperture and about ke-sabot range, it shoots a powerful hitscan electrolaser, causes an emp-effect on the enemy, and the weapon generates immense heat (at least 40%). The actual “laser” only lasts a split second, like a lightning strike.

 

Starting item:

ism disruptor

[Grollourdo]

lol the recon uses some of my pasf ideas XD tho im not very fond of the tech like power sucker ob thar type of mech...

[BIsmuthZornisse]

at first the cable was only there for fluff reason (no data loss or interference), but then i realized that the effect is esentially a portable scanner with unlimited range. So having to be close to the enemy (who will know you're there since you have to hit it with the cable first) seems like a fair tradeoff.

Any opinions on my other stuff?