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Updated the original post with Tiggs' advice (at the bottom).



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what is Downdetectorě.com ? what is it for , didn't found anything about hawken :( what's the point to get help from that site , will he discribe please , thanks



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what is Downdetectorě.com ? what is it for , didn't found anything about hawken :( what's the point to get help from that site , will he discribe please , thanks

It is a website that shows you the number of complaint reports filed for a particular service over the last 24 hours (per hour). If there is a spike of reports going on, there is a large-scale problem with the service.


Edited by DerMax, 07 April 2016 - 02:58 AM.


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Important update to the original post: PingPlotter scenarios (at the bottom).


Edited by DerMax, 07 April 2016 - 03:13 AM.


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It is a website that shows you the number of complaint reports filed for a particular service over the last 24 hours (per hour). If there is a spike of reports going on, there is a large-scale problem with the service.

i didn't find any problem related to my ISP nor company  , i contact to my ISP , they will send some soldier and pilots to fix my  war , u know war is a machine 


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my soldier and pilots from ISP didn't found any problem , now i'm having problem how to conviene them that there are some problem :(  

 

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Did you try closing others programs like Skype and did it help?


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Did you try closing others programs like Skype and did it help?

this is the problem start from 151.6.xxx.xx that is my ISP , with cable and wifi , without skype is the same 



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Did you try closing others programs like Skype and did it help?

lol your signature badge XD Nice one 


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How do you get the IP of a specific server?

 

EDIT: other than I guess using scrimbot/spectator mode

 

 

 

Also, if I interpreting the OP correctly, this would be an issue on Reloaded's end, yes?

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Crock, there are multiple problems in your image:

 

1. You have a max ping jump (the grey bar going far right) between your router and the second hop and in hops from there on. This, to my knowledge, can mean two things: a) A problem in the cable/junction box between you and your ISP; b) Occasional bandwidth saturation (more likely). When your bandwidth become clogged for whatever reason, you spike on the second hop.

 

2.Your internets seem to be taking a rather weird path. They go to from your home to Seattle, then to San Jose, then to Dallas (instead of directly).

 

3. There's a huge spike on hop #18, but it doesn't seem to be translating to round trip spikes, so it shouldn't matter.


Edited by DerMax, 20 April 2016 - 11:19 PM.


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Crock, there are multiple problems in your image:

 

1. You have a max ping jump (the grey bar going far right) between your router and the second hop and in hops from there on. This, to my knowledge, can mean two things: a) A problem in the cable/junction box between you and your ISP; b) Occasional bandwidth saturation (more likely). When your bandwidth become clogged for whatever reason, you spike on the second hop.

 

2.Your internets seem to be taking a rather weird path. They go to from your home to Seattle, then to San Jose, then to Dallas (instead of directly).

 

3. There's a huge spike on hop #18, but it doesn't seem to be translating to round trip spikes, so it shouldn't matter.

 

 

I meant the packet loss in 15 and 16. I know some of my stuff is screwy early on and that's not RL's problem. Coldform saw packet loss on the same hops as I did.


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I meant the packet loss in 15 and 16. I know some of my stuff is screwy early on and that's not RL's problem. Coldform saw packet loss on the same hops as I did.

It doesn't matter, those hops do nothing. If your packet loss doesn't show on the bottom graph, it doesn't affect your gameplay.


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What do you think of this one?

I like going against the best of any game I play. Helps you in the long run n motivates u to do more. Always room for improvement not failure

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It doesn't matter, those hops do nothing. If your packet loss doesn't show on the bottom graph, it doesn't affect your gameplay.

Ah, thanks


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What do you think of this one?

Woah, this one's really bad. You see all those towers in the bottom graph? Each one is a ping spike resulting in momentary lag. But it's hard to tell what the problem is from the static image; can you record your PingPlotter for a couple of minutes?



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Woah, this one's really bad. You see all those towers in the bottom graph? Each one is a ping spike resulting in momentary lag. But it's hard to tell what the problem is from the static image; can you record your PingPlotter for a couple of minutes?

 

I will do that tonight, and PM You a link of the video as soon as I upload it.


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That looks like wi-fi, rozer. If it is, you should switch to cable, if it's not, your router is dying.



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That looks like wi-fi, rozer. If it is, you should switch to cable, if it's not, your router is dying.

in cable same , my route new , just bought fe weeks ago Screenshot%2066_zpsxlzqv4s4.png



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Post your PingPlotter's results with the cable connection.



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here is with the cable : Screenshot%2050_zpsb0iimy8r.png



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reading the comments about the router prob, from 70-90% packet loss NJ and LA both!  unplugged the router and directly into the modem, and i may have discovered why i have had such a grind trying hit anything for 3 1/2 years (0% PL to Sydney???):

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rozer, looking at your second image, I can tell there are two possible sources of the problem on your end: bandwidth clogging or ISP.

 

First, you need to check if your bandwidth is clogged. Use speedtest.net to see what speed you can get to any server in Germany. If your upstream speed is fine at all times, you should read and do this: https://www.pingplot...lling_case.html


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"First, it's really important to understand that the only hop that matters is the final destination. If the final hop (your target) is showing 0% packet loss and acceptable latency, then all the hops before that can show all kinds of errors and it doesn't matter. As long as the final destination isn't affected, then all other latency and packet loss is an artifact of router configuration (or similar), and there is no problem.

The only hop that matters is the final destination. If you're happy with the latency and packet loss being seen at the final destination, then none of the other hops matter."

 

 

If above is true, he has much smaller percentage of loss. But I am no expert.

As I gather, if he had 70% packet loss he wouldn't hit fuzzy bunny, let alone rip stuff in SS.

Just my observation from the games in last 2 days.

 

Also, I would try to shut down all the crap that connects to net that you don't really need while playing.

Turn off every device that connects  to your router and/or disable wifi ,and see how it goes.


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"First, it's really important to understand that the only hop that matters is the final destination. If the final hop (your target) is showing 0% packet loss and acceptable latency, then all the hops before that can show all kinds of errors and it doesn't matter. As long as the final destination isn't affected, then all other latency and packet loss is an artifact of router configuration (or similar), and there is no problem.

The only hop that matters is the final destination. If you're happy with the latency and packet loss being seen at the final destination, then none of the other hops matter."

 

 

If above is true, he has much smaller percentage of loss. But I am no expert.

As I gather, if he had 70% packet loss he wouldn't hit fuzzy bunny, let alone rip stuff in SS.

Just my observation from the games in last 2 days.

 

Also, I would try to shut down all the crap that connects to net that you don't really need while playing.

Turn off every device that connects  to your router and/or disable wifi ,and see how it goes.

is same only 4 device PC , laptop , 2 cell phone , when im going to play i turn off all device accept cell phone 



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also when someone joining or leaving it give me massive ping spike and lag :( also teleport power


Edited by (KDR) Guns_N_Rozer, 27 April 2016 - 01:33 AM.


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also when someone joining or leaving it give me massive ping spike and lag :( also teleport power

I think this means bandwidth clogging. You should monitor all your upstream and downstream web traffic and see how it behaves.

 

And Chikin, I have two hops with 100% packet loss and no lag in the game (and I'm playing on damn wi-fi).


Edited by DerMax, 27 April 2016 - 02:34 AM.


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 You should monitor all your upstream and downstream web traffic and see how it behaves.

 

how ? thanks



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I think this means bandwidth clogging. You should monitor all your upstream and downstream web traffic and see how it behaves.

 

And Chikin, I have two hops with 100% packet loss and no lag in the game (and I'm playing on damn wi-fi).

 

So, is packet loss happening on the final hop?

If not then...I guess that mumbo-jumbo I pasted is true.


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So, is packet loss happening on the final hop?

If not then...I guess that mumbo-jumbo I pasted is true.

That mumbo-jumbo is indeed true.



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So, Rozer has Skype, TeamSpeak, PornChat,  cell phone, brothers PC and wireless toaster connected to his net

and it is causing the trouble.


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So, Rozer has Skype, TeamSpeak, PornChat,  cell phone, brothers PC and wireless toaster connected to his net
and it is causing the trouble.


Wireless Porn Toaster: burns the preview images of the most popular clips and their urls onto slices of bread, so you can save time between eating and hunting. Mayonnaise dispenser included.
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Awesome idea!


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Ew that's gross, where do you get your ideas?

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blip!


Edited by Chickin, 27 April 2016 - 04:39 AM.

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ohh comon Pornchat is okey , why wifi toaster ? is there any such device there  :wallbash: oh boy cant stop laughing  :teehee:


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...snip, why wifi toaster ? is there any such device there  :wallbash:

 

Yes, there is:  https://www.google.c...57j0l5.2647j0j8


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To be serious for a moment this is just a joke

 


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Holy burnt toast Batman !  :blink:


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