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[Shade__]

im so happy to see new mods?

this has to be someones alt, or a mods main.
http://hawken.heroku...ser/MEEGHAN_FOX
if this is your alt nice meme.

Edited by Shade__, 04 August 2016 - 07:53 PM.

[Mech Mod 7]

I have some questions for the mods.
Do you play 1,2 or 3 of platforms? PC/XB1/PS4

Many accounts that ruin the experience never come near the forums...
Do you record games + run first person killcams and look for evidence of botting?
Are you able to get players banned based on in-game griefing, etc?

 

I personally have played the game on all 3, I prefer PC but that's because I'm a PC gamer by default.

As a Mech Mod my focus is here in the community, I don't go on hacker witch hunts. If I encounter one, I report them the same way any other player would.

While we do have the ability to communicate with the community management team directly, that is used with regards to the community, playing the game we are no different from a normal player so reporting in-game abuse goes through the same channels.

[6ixxer]

I personally have played the game on all 3, I prefer PC but that's because I'm a PC gamer by default.

As a Mech Mod my focus is here in the community, I don't go on hacker witch hunts. If I encounter one, I report them the same way any other player would.

While we do have the ability to communicate with the community management team directly, that is used with regards to the community, playing the game we are no different from a normal player so reporting in-game abuse goes through the same channels.

 

so you can report them with a ticket like we can, but do you record games and use first person killcam so that you can submit evidence?

 

I expect in game you are just a normal player account, but if you report back to RLD about toxic players, etc I would expect you carry more weight than other community members as you would have some guidelines based on your Mod role?

 

It would if players are made to think twice before being toxic in game, as it could be submitted back to RLD via someone who has some extra sway with the devs.

[CraftyDus]

I personally have played the game on all 3, I prefer PC but that's because I'm a PC gamer by default.

 playing the game we are no different from a normal player.

 

 

Add "Scrimbot" to your friends list in game. Start a private message with scrimbot in game. Type psr.

What is your poopslingerrating?

 

Type mmr.

What is your matchmakerrating?

[XFXFuryX]

I wanted to take the time to welcome all the new moderators. We as a community are very happy to have you with us, as I am sure you are just as happy to be here with us.

 

Hawken really is a great game but has grown toxic over time from the clique behavior of a handful of players. I am sure you can easily identify some of these players by their responses in this thread and multiple others.

 

We are all thrilled that you have come along to help clean up this mess that the community has created.

 

I am sure that in time the toxic players will realize soon that you don't want or even need them in our community. Removing certain individuals from a community is a important 1st step to unifying a community of this size. Some have a hard time understanding that a company such as reloaded has no need for individuals that go out of their way to tarnish the efforts of the company.

 

To the community:

 

As a moderator for Tap4Fun LTD. I understand what is happening and what we are going through.

In all likelihood the moderation team is a large group of "Volunteers" that get no monetary compensation. 

The rules for this type of moderation team is very Black & White, detailed reports are kept and a chain of action is followed precisely.

There is no Grey areas for a group of volunteers that have no attachment or bias towards the game or any member of its community.

These people are trained and know what they are doing and know the definition of the rules like the back of their hand.

Rest assured that they are here to help but 1st and foremost their responsibility is to ensure peaceful interactions within this community.

 

As the Late Great Thomas Paine would say:

 

"Lead, Follow, or get out of the way."

Edited by XFXFuryX, 06 August 2016 - 10:34 AM.

[Hyginos]

This is a question that mods probably aren't allowed to answer, but I'm a bit of a data addict (aka: 'the guy who can put a room to sleep talking about things he finds interesting') and I'm curious:

 

How many warnings or warning points total have been given out?

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

I wanted to take the time to welcome all the new moderators

 

Ce fourberie.

[Mech Mod 7]

Add "Scrimbot" to your friends list in game. Start a private message with scrimbot in game. Type psr.

What is your poopslingerrating?

 

Type mmr.

What is your matchmakerrating?

 

If I have wicked high numbers, would that somehow validate me as a Moderator of this community to you? What you are asking is irrelevant.

 

I enjoy HAWKEN as a game and want to see it's community grow. I have experience both in the game and in Moderating communities, this made me a good fit for Mech Mod, so here I am.

 

This is a question that mods probably aren't allowed to answer, but I'm a bit of a data addict (aka: 'the guy who can put a room to sleep talking about things he finds interesting') and I'm curious:

 

How many warnings or warning points total have been given out?

 

We don't have a system to track metrics like that, Board administrators might but I haven't seen such a system on the back end of any major forum package. It's not a good measure of the community anyway. Hater's gonna hate, we'll correct it and keep moving forward.

[SquaredRoot]

I don't know what you're talking about. I picked up the game a few weeks ago, and it certainly doesn't take years of playing it to be good. I feel like I play it competently enough.

 

No offense, but as someone who has been at the  top and bottom of the Hawken food chain many times, I fear you're mistaken.  It doesn't take very long to learn how to play, but Hawken carries a  high skill cap, and a lot of dedicated players, and if you haven't played against the top 30% of the Hawken PC community there will be much to learn and improve on.  That said I welcome and encourage you to do so, and to work yourself into the community.  Just know that if you're truly under this opinion you're likely in for a rude awakening if and when your MMR raises sufficiently.

 

Regards,

 

Squared_Root

 

An Often Silent but Long Faithful Pilot

[CraftyDus]

I prefer PC but that's because I'm a PC gamer by default.

playing the game we are no different from a normal player

 

 

If I have wicked high numbers, would that somehow validate me as a Moderator of this community to you? What you are asking is irrelevant.

 

 

Try not to overreact so aggressively, you'll likely fit in better.

 

Especially if you are seeking "validation" not only as a moderator of this community forum, but as "no different from a normal player, playing the game"

 

To explain,

 

The psr is a longstanding joke to parody the mmr number which would indicate basic understanding of the game, juxtaposed with a rating based on absurdity.

A joke you seem to be unable or unwilling to participate in.

 

Your obvious hostility to the question, which was a friendly one, indicates no need for further such angry answers from you.

You got the wrong idea and didn't come off well for it.

 

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Good luck with all of that.

[Kindos7]

I enjoy HAWKEN as a game and want to see it's community grow. I have experience both in the game and in Moderating communities, this made me a good fit for Mech Mod, so here I am.

If I have wicked high numbers, would that somehow validate me as a Moderator of this community to you? What you are asking is irrelevant.

So your experience (for which Crafty is asking proof) both validates you as a Mech Mod, and is irrelevant.
Right, Mr 5+2.

[_incitatus]

If I have wicked high numbers, would that somehow validate me as a Moderator of this community to you? What you are asking is irrelevant.

 

 

You said you play the game, so we're naturally curious about your MMR.  That's all.  It's an attempt to relate to you as a player. 

 

 Although, PSR is by far the most important metric in the game.

[Mech Mod 7]

I apologize for coming across as hostile, that's not the case, the MMR question has been asked multiple times in this thread and we're not going to answer it for exactly the reason I state; as Mods, our MMR is irrelevant to performing our duties.

 

Furthermore I don't care to look up my MMR. Never have, on any game.

 

And no, I won't participate in the PSR joke 

[CraftyDus]

"You are out of your element, Donny." -Walter Sobchack, Vietnam Veteran

[DeeRax]

And no, I won't participate in the PSR joke 

But Why?

[_incitatus]

I apologize for coming across as hostile, that's not the case, the MMR question has been asked multiple times in this thread and we're not going to answer it for exactly the reason I state; as Mods, our MMR is irrelevant to performing our duties.

And no, I won't participate in the PSR joke 

 

Right.  MMR is irrelevant to performing your duties.  But so is this info:

 

 

 

I play games of all types, with a special place in my heart for mech shooters, what started with MechWarrior is now taken up by HAWKEN, I'm still trying to get used to the controller scheme on PS4 as i'm mostly a PC guy. I also stay busy on pretty much every Blizzard title. Mercy im Bereitschaftsdienst! 

 

I'm glad to be here and support the community around a game that I truly enjoy. Behind the keys I study IT, build computers, discuss firearms and technology and play fetch with my Corgi.

 

Srsly... we try to be nice and ask some questions out of curiosity and that is the reply we get? 

 

The PSR joke?  Its a freaking random number.  You could of just made up a number, but instead you just refuse to participate in the "PSR joke"?  Come on...

 

I really just don't understand your reluctance to answer the MMR question.  Do you think we are going to reverse lookup your callsigns using your MMR or something? 

 

[Hyginos]

And no, I won't participate in the PSR joke 

 

Yes you will, unwilling or otherwise. Your PSR is -4.

[Shade__]

Yes you will, unwilling or otherwise. Your PSR is -4.

Have image can confirm.
Also as far as i can tell Seven is the only mod to play on his mod account.

Edited by Shade__, 08 August 2016 - 12:45 PM.

[_incitatus]

Yes you will, unwilling or otherwise. Your PSR is -4.

 

And -4 is nothing to be ashamed of...  It's actually pretty good.

[Shade__]

And -4 is nothing to be ashamed of...  It's actually pretty good.

It's better than my 0 let it be know the mods have better PSR than Shade.

Edited by Shade__, 08 August 2016 - 12:52 PM.

[TheButtSatisfier]

I apologize for coming across as hostile, that's not the case, the MMR question has been asked multiple times in this thread and we're not going to answer it for exactly the reason I state; as Mods, our MMR is irrelevant to performing our duties.

 

Furthermore I don't care to look up my MMR. Never have, on any game.

 

And no, I won't participate in the PSR joke 

 

I'm going to say this being a large proponent of increased developer-community interaction:

 

Are you serious?

 

You guys are totally down to connect with our community by talking about your favorite video games, foods, and passtimes, but the moment we try to connect with you guys by asking for simple gaming metrics - and get this, metrics that are actually relevant to the community you'll be moderating -  you decide that you're not going to share that info because it's irrelevant to your duties? That excuse seems rather convenient because telling us about all that other stuff was irrelevant to your duties too, but that didn't seem to stop you.

 

You having a high, medium, or low MMR (or PSR for that matter) is irrelevant to us in regards to your moderating ability. You could never play this game and we wouldn't care. I assume your job as a moderator is to moderate these forums, and to use your authority to ensure that the forum rules are being followed. We're asking you these questions because we want to know more about the people who have joined our community in a context that actually mean something to us other than "I like pizza, anime, and video games".

 

Edit: I fully support everyone's right to not give out that kind of info, but saying "I'd prefer to keep that information private" comes across being far more genuine than "lulz not part of my job"

Edited by TheButtSatisfier, 08 August 2016 - 01:00 PM.

[HOHOHOSANTA]

damn im running out of butter for all this popcorn.

[Mech Mod 7]

Let me put it this way:

 

Everything I've seen up to this point in this community, y'all use MMR as a metric to measure skill or time spent in the game.

 

Some of it's harmless, but just as much of it inspires a fictional pecking order or rank. "Your MMR is lower than mine, when it's above mine then you can talk trash" etc.

 

I'm not going to look up and disclose my MMR as a Mech Mod because I don't care about my MMR and I'm not in this pecking order. I'm perfectly capable of discussing multiple things about the game, but I'm not going to lay out my MMR to be measured against.

 

Can't speak for other Mods but I'm fairly certain they're in the same boat.

[Silverfire]

Let me put it this way:

 

Everything I've seen up to this point in this community, y'all use MMR as a metric to measure skill or time spent in the game.

 

Some of it's harmless, but just as much of it inspires a fictional pecking order or rank. "Your MMR is lower than mine, when it's above mine then you can talk trash" etc.

 

 

 

I mean to be fair, MMR is a very rough number quantifying skill so to use it as a metric to measure skill is pretty accurate, just saying.  Time spent in game has no impact on your MMR either.

 

I respect your right to refuse to disclose your MMR.  It's just a way for the community to connect with anonymous mods that we know little about.  

 

However, in terms of MMR inspiring people to think they have the right to talk trash, that's kind of questionable given that plenty of players talk trash about other people regardless of MMR.  Haven't seen much, if any, of "if ur mmr iz higher then u cn talk trash" talk that you speak of on these forums in recent memory.

Edited by Silverfire, 08 August 2016 - 01:38 PM.

[KejiGoto]

Nothing like selective participation when trying to be part of a long standing community.

 

Still curious about where these other Mech Mods are at as well. Thought this was supposed to be a thread for all them to introduce themselves and start becoming part of the community. Instead we've got only a few with others noticeably missing.

[eth0]

 

Everything I've seen up to this point in this community, y'all use MMR as a metric to measure skill or time spent in the game.

 

!mmr makes for ... y'all know the rest. Using it as anything other than a personal reference is futile. Checking your own progress (or lack thereof) may not be your cup of tea, but assuming we take it seriously is giving it too much credit.

 

 

Some of it's harmless, but just as much of it inspires a fictional pecking order or rank. "Your MMR is lower than mine, when it's above mine then you can talk trash" etc.

 

You really believe that? Have you seen the MMR of the trash talkers?

[TheButtSatisfier]

Let me put it this way:

 

Everything I've seen up to this point in this community, y'all use MMR as a metric to measure skill or time spent in the game.

 

Some of it's harmless, but just as much of it inspires a fictional pecking order or rank. "Your MMR is lower than mine, when it's above mine then you can talk trash" etc.

 

With all due respect, the issue that I take isn't that you didn't want to give out your MMR. It's that you said that it was irrelevant to your duties in the same thread where you talk about other things that are unrelated to your duties. When I see you make one post with all sorts of neato information about you in it to serve as an icebreaker, then it's totally fine because you did it on your terms. Then, when we ask you information that we're interested in, it's not apart of your job duties.

 

This isn't about us dragging you out of your high castle to display your MMR for the whole Hawken village to see. This is how we relate to each other. Here - you said you like to discuss firearms. I imagine you've gone to a shooting range, right? Let's say you are a regular there. In fact, you've been going to that shooting range for so long that you've developed friends, enemies, and generally a whole community there. The old owner dies and it's kind of just hanging on by a thread and maintained by the former cashier who had a soft spot for the place. Then, a new company takes over from out of state. A new Range Officer comes in and starts interacting with the community. He talks about his family, where he's from, his favorite flavor of ice cream, and does so happily.

 

"So what rifles do you like to shoot? What about handguns?" asked one of the community members.

 

"I'm not answering that because what I shoot is irrelevant to our job duties."

 

That's you. That's how you sound.

 

Again, as I've said before, I completely respect your right to not give out that kind of info. A Range Officer doesn't have to talk about what they own, and you don't have to mention your MMR. But if you come here and start connecting with the community, and then decide to draw the line with something most of us are comfortable sharing as a result of it being a part of our culture, then you're going to have a bad time. I'm sure you mean well, and I don't hold this against you, but it's also disappointing to have someone I'm eager to interact with hang an argument on something hypocritical in their introduction thread.

Edited by TheButtSatisfier, 08 August 2016 - 05:00 PM.

[CraftyDus]

Let me put it this way:

 

Everything I've seen up to this point in this community, y'all use MMR as a metric to measure skill or time spent in the game.

 

Some of it's harmless, but just as much of it inspires a fictional pecking order or rank. "Your MMR is lower than mine, when it's above mine then you can talk trash" etc.

 

 

 

nope

 

 

 

[citation needed]

 

 

 

you have quite the imagination

[Hyginos]

If mods don't want to give out MMR I have no problem with that, but I want to talk with them about something, even if it utterly trite and benign.
 

How about this:

• Favorite mech?
• Favorite map?
• Favorite gamemode?
• Would you rather fight 100 duck sized horses or 1 horse sized duck?
• Would you rather fight 10 tech sized brawlers or 1 brawler sized tech?
• What button do you have holotaunt bound to? Mech taunt?
• Favorite ice cream flavor?
• Most played video game before you became a mech mod?
• Do when you say Prosk, do you pronounce it PrOHsk or PrAHsk?
• Describe yourself with a haiku or a limerick.
• Have you ever killed Marvin?
• If you could have any job besides the one you have now, ignoring pay and qualification, what would that be?
• Which of the factions in the Hawken universe do you think has the coolest looking logo?
• What is the maximum ground speed you have achieved?
• If you had to choose one other mech mod to be stranded on a desert island with, who would you take?

Also, for future reference, if you don't want to talk about MMR, don't talk about MMR. Lots of people have lots to say about it, so if you don't want to hear it don't bring it up.

[6ixxer]

his mech mod rating (mmr) is 3000

 

hes wiping the floor with all you forum trash.

 

lol

[DemitronPrime]

 

ok guys... maybe lay back abit...

 

before you all get perma banned -_-

 

<_<

>_>

[Nept]

Let me put it this way:

 

Everything I've seen up to this point in this community, y'all use MMR as a metric to measure skill or time spent in the game.

 

As Silverfire indicated, MMR is a skill-measuring metric for matchmaking purposes.  It's not a perfect representation (nor would anyone claim that it is), but our community's "usage"/interpretation is appropriate because that's literally what that metric measures.  We interpret MMR as would any community for which Elo ratings exist (e.g., Chess). 

 

Some of it's harmless, but just as much of it inspires a fictional pecking order or rank. "Your MMR is lower than mine, when it's above mine then you can talk trash" etc.

 

I'm not going to look up and disclose my MMR as a Mech Mod because I don't care about my MMR and I'm not in this pecking order. I'm perfectly capable of discussing multiple things about the game, but I'm not going to lay out my MMR to be measured against.

 

I don't think that's an accurate representation of this community, and I think - as others have mentioned - that you're misinterpreting what's being asked.  The only instance of MMR bickering I can recall was yesterday's argument between demitron and greymon - and I'd hardly call that representative.  I would be interested in seeing other instances of "fictional [MMR] pecking order or rank".

Edited by Nept, 08 August 2016 - 02:46 PM.

[ForHarambe]

Let me put it this way:

 

Everything I've seen up to this point in this community, y'all use MMR as a metric to measure skill or time spent in the game.

 

Some of it's harmless, but just as much of it inspires a fictional pecking order or rank. "Your MMR is lower than mine, when it's above mine then you can talk trash" etc.

 

I'm not going to look up and disclose my MMR as a Mech Mod because I don't care about my MMR and I'm not in this pecking order. I'm perfectly capable of discussing multiple things about the game, but I'm not going to lay out my MMR to be measured against.

 

Can't speak for other Mods but I'm fairly certain they're in the same boat.

not really sure how many games you play because most games that have any community, there is some way to effectively measure skill amongst each other.

 

and for this "imaginary pecking order", it is mostly a meritocracy. if you are not annoying and can discuss a subject in an intelligent way, you get rewarded. the community cas built its own standards over the past five years of existence and have a form of self policing. what would you do if some one came into your house and started telling you how to rearrange your furniture and will be strictly vegan from now on. how would that make you feel. its the same thing.

[D0nald_Trump]

https://en.wikipedia...g–Kruger_effect

[coldform]

LMAO

 

there is no real pecking order.  hell, I've felt more welcome in matches populated by people at or above my level, and in matches where the skill of my opponents grossly outweighs my own skill, I'm entreated to a learning exercise, more so by the fact that my opponents will speak out and offer advice and encouragement, and I would not have received such treatment in a lower lobby.

 

I think that mech mod 7 once again has misinterpreted this community maybe based on his experience with other communities. insular tendencies and ill-mannered appearances aside, hawken boasts one of the most welcoming, positive, and friendly communities on the internet.

Edited by coldform, 08 August 2016 - 02:43 PM.

[DemitronPrime]

-Snip-    The only instance of MMR bickering I can recall was yesterday's argument between demitron and greymon - and I'd hardly call that representative.  I would be interested in seeing other instances of "fictional MMR pecking order or rank".

 

Wait whut?

 

you think i was actually bickering about mmr with him?

 

LOL!

 

i wasnt... but i DO agree..

 

in general as a MID mmr play... i find the majority of the community dont treat me any less on this basis...

Edited by DemitronPrime, 08 August 2016 - 02:45 PM.

[SquaredRoot]

Ok, so there has been a lot of talk about MMR.  I do however have one legitimate and relevant question regarding this.

 

How does match making work for moderators?  Will you be intentionally picking servers and dropping in on matches?

 

If there isn't a decent MMR spread by moderators, or they're not actively joining matches above or below their skill level, there will be matches that never get policed.  Is this being addressed?

 

Thanks!

[Mech Mod 7]

 

For all our complaints about mech mods being faceless randos, I haven't seem much in the way of actual interview questions in this thread.

 

How about this:

• Favorite mech?
• Favorite map?
• Favorite gamemode?
• Would you rather fight 100 duck sized horses or 1 horse sized duck?
• Would you rather fight 10 tech sized brawlers or 1 brawler sized tech?
• What button do you have holotaunt bound to? Mech taunt?
• Favorite ice cream flavor?
• Most played video game before you became a mech mod?
• Do when you say Prosk, do you pronounce it PrOHsk or PrAHsk?
• Describe yourself with a haiku or a limerick.
• Have you ever killed Marvin? 
• If you could have any job besides the one you have now, ignoring pay and qualification, what would that be?
• Which of the factions in the Hawken universe do you think has the coolest looking logo?
• What is the maximum ground speed you have achieved?
• If you had to choose one other mech mod to be stranded on a desert island with, who would you take?

 

 

• I'm actually a fan of the Brawler. Don't know what it is about me and tanking in games but that's what I like to do, get in the fight and soak damage, and usually get wrecked.
• I like Origin the most, I keep finding myself in Wreckage though.
• Siege is the most interesting to me.
• Fried Duck is tasty. I'd slay a horse-sized one.
• Brawler-sized tech. Bigger targets. 
• I don't taunt much, I haven't yet gotten around to switching off the default keybinds, I don't usually, instead I bind the most used default keys to my G600 mouse, I try to minimize my time off the WASD array.
• Cookie Dough.
• That's a tough one as I split my time between a lot of games. I suppose you could say WoW. (Which has claimed 7 years and counting of my life) Where, fun fact, I reverse my Keyboard/Mouse routine. Mouse handles all movement, keys handle abilities.
• PrOHsk. Who says PrAHsk?
• A Haiku? Hell I don't know:

Mech Mod Seven Here

Playing games and drinking beer

Clank clank goes his Tank

• I have not been so lucky yet. No Christmas ornament drones for me.
• Any job? Network architect. It's probably a migraine, but I like having that job that everyone thinks you're a freakin' wizard. I've had a few in the past.
• Sentium. I'm a sucker for clean geometric logos.
• As in real life? A rental agency made the mistake of giving me an Alfa Romeo GT once. V12 Diesel 6-spd. I hit about 210kph on the Speedo before I felt the tires start to lose grip in the curves. That's about 130 MPH those of you dealing in Freedom Units.
• Probably 3. We get along pretty well.

[TheButtSatisfier]

 

• I'm actually a fan of the Brawler. Don't know what it is about me and tanking in games but that's what I like to do, get in the fight and soak damage, and usually get wrecked.

 

*Eyes flutter*

[SquaredRoot]

• Any job? Network architect. It's probably a migraine, but I like having that job that everyone thinks you're a freakin' wizard. I've had a few in the past.

 

 

Nice.  Networking isn't my cup of tea.  I'm more of a software guy, but network architects get paid bank :D  Do you work from home?