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[chuiu]

phed, on August 14 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

Chancellor, on August 14 2013 - 08:55 PM, said:

I sure hope I have to level my Pilot, I dont want everything done for me because I've played so much already.

i am of the opposite opinion.

As am I.  I've played and enjoyed games that didn't require me to endlessly grind for hours to keep up with the competition.  Games that were built on top of the foundation that newer players were just as equal as seasoned veterans.  The competitive scenes were always active and filled with new members and a thriving fan-base.

I like the idea of leveling up and unlocking stuff more than the next person, but I don't want it to be a barrier I need to pass in order to unlock weapons or items I want to use.  The current leveling system for mech's is already more than enough grinding for me.

[ecaflip]

AsianJoyKiller, on August 14 2013 - 11:11 PM, said:

Fails the "competitively successful" check. CoD comp scene is a joke.

CoD may be a joke, but the MLG insists on having one each year.

[ReachH]

start at 2:41

Edited by ReachH, August 14 2013 - 11:48 PM.

[ReachH]

ecaflip, on August 14 2013 - 11:35 PM, said:

AsianJoyKiller, on August 14 2013 - 11:11 PM, said:

Fails the "competitively successful" check. CoD comp scene is a joke.

CoD may be a joke, but the MLG insists on having one each year.

MLG is on the decline really, its more of a festival organizer than a serious esports organization. And I'm not just saying that because they messed up WCS and then got butthurt and dropped out of starcraft and got replaced with NASL.

They are an event organizer, and have given up producing continuous content. They tried it, and they aren't that good or its not their business model or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, dreamhacks and MLGs and insomnias are great at promoting esports, but hosting a tournament and running a league or worldwide competition is something else entirely.

I think its safe to say that a CoD league would never survive because, quite frankly, its not that interesting, and people don't really give a damn. But include it as part of a weekend event and hey! presto! people can relate, because its a popular mainstream title. Will people start following [insert CoD pro] or [insert CoD pro team]_ Probably not. Even Quakelive, which is comparatively not as well known or popular, probably has better retention in terms of fans, participants and spectators. Dreamhack has been doing quake for longer than MLG has been around I think.

Edited by ReachH, August 14 2013 - 11:58 PM.

[takashi_k]

Some of these changes look good, though.  They are adding offline team deathmatch, VR training, and Co-op with bots.  That sounds pretty neat to me.

Having the option to keep the old HUD would be nice, though.

[DYLANDYON]

Based on the last years gameplay video they seem to have still mechs that hasn't been released yet, so I am not suprised a wide faced heavy class mech appears in the update. Which is weird because as a heavy class you're usually after taller mechs, not wider ones with biggest shoulder pads ever.

[davek1979]

Oh those HUD bars are ugly as all hell.

[hendman]

takashi_k, on August 15 2013 - 12:24 AM, said:

Some of these changes look good, though.  They are adding offline team deathmatch, VR training, and Co-op with bots.  That sounds pretty neat to me.

Having the option to keep the old HUD would be nice, though.

The co-op with bots mode won't make it into the upcoming patch, it has been delayed.

[ED209mk2]

most important question I have:  when~!_ will this patch arrive_

[JyuVioleGrace]

I can't say I'm overly fond of the HP bar and Boost meter not being part of the mech cockpit. However, assuming I had an Oculus Rift, and those bars moved along with my head, then I'd be completely fine with it and cream my pants a little more. I'll assume it's part of the pilot's HMD (http://en.wikipedia....mounted_display).

So, y'know... You're wearing a HMD. And your pilot is as well. And... Well, it's kinda.. Awesome_

[HideyoshiYaoi]

ecaflip, on August 14 2013 - 07:38 PM, said:

This is why I'm worried

So then pay ten dollars and get an XP boost_

Who cares if it's pay2notgrind_ Some people don't want to grind for seven hours for a single thing in a game when they can just pay three dollars and get it.  They might not have the time in real life to do it

[DaPheel]

I can't wait - nice and fresh new look.

[davek1979]

Will we be finally able to customize our mech while in match _ Don't see the answer to this.

[h0B0]

F_error i speculate that mechs will be free, it has been stated so. Weapons however seem to now cost ingame currency.

I can't say if this patch will make it so the game shift away from a competitive level, but those screenshots don't seem to help out.

Lastly i would keep those 25k HC in the bank for now until we have a lcear understanding of what compensation there will be when the patch goes live. Imagine spending it all on mechs that won't be refunded. Or on items that will get transfered but cost significantly less (see screenies). But im ecessively cheap .

[FakeName]

NOOOOO Look at the new UI! The HP bar is not a screen in the mech anymroe Hopefully I can select the old UI to use again.

[AsianJoyKiller]

HideyoshiYaoi, on August 15 2013 - 03:24 AM, said:

So then pay ten dollars and get an XP boost_

Who cares if it's pay2notgrind_ Some people don't want to grind for seven hours for a single thing in a game when they can just pay three dollars and get it.  They might not have the time in real life to do it

Vertical progression is more than a problem of just time and.

It directly impacts the competitive viability of a game, especially shooters, and creates balance problems that can only be solved by separating the player base by more than is what is truly needed due to power gaps overruling skill.

[Fstroke]

davek1979, on August 15 2013 - 04:48 AM, said:

Will we be finally able to customize our mech while in match _ Don't see the answer to this.

This needs to happen so bad. If not during a match then in between matches so you dont have to leave a good server.

[Rajhin]

So correct me if I am wrong, but when you level your mech to maximum you get a free new mech with skin and some items_ And what if you already have this mechs, can you only take that skin to your mech and have some compensation for refusal_ Or you will be forced to keep this duplicate mech in your garage_
Also it is funny that prize for leveling your Vanguard is Assault. So the chain is CRT-Vanguard-Assault_ I guess next mech should be Grenadier. Just for giggles.

[Kataklyzmik]

AsianJoyKiller, on August 14 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

And before someone goes "But AJK, you can't possibly know that this would ruin comp play", name me a shooter that has been competitively successful and uses vertical progression.

I can see your point.  However, if nobody ever tried something that hasn't yet been done, we'd never have anything new.  Also, it is not a shooter, but LoL is the most competitively successful video game yet and it has vertical progression.  The competitive players are just fully progressed.