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[[HWK]ZamboniChaos]

ShadowWarg, on September 02 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Rajhin, on September 02 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Astrolis, on September 02 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

• Vanguard – Vanguard Turret
  
  • Base movement increased from 200 to 475
    
  • Damage taken from the front reduced by 55%
    
  • Damage taken from the back increased by 50%

Can not wait to chase A-class down in turret mode!!!

Thats actually a bit more than half of A-classes speed which is 850 afair.

Lol so when you think about it, its not that fast at all.

Perhaps not as fast as lightning, but I have been known to terrorize many an A-class with my Turret Mode Brawler thanks to that boost.

[Astrolis]

Rajhin, on September 02 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Astrolis, on September 02 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

• Vanguard – Vanguard Turret
  
  • Base movement increased from 200 to 475
    
  • Damage taken from the front reduced by 55%
    
  • Damage taken from the back increased by 50%

Can not wait to chase A-class down in turret mode!!!

Thats actually a bit more than half of A-classes speed which is 850 afair.

still so fast considering its in turret mode and it has silly dmg reduction.

[SS396]

[HWK]ZamboniChaos, on September 02 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

• 
  
  • Blockade – Higher Rank Blockades have increased health, life span and width.
    
    • Basic
      
      • Health: 350
        
      • Duration: 9 Seconds
    • Moderate
      
      • Health: 550
        
      • Duration: 12 Seconds
        
      • About 2x as wide as a Basic Blockade.
    • Advanced
      
      • Health: 750
        
      • Duration: 15 Seconds
        
      • About 4x as wide as a Basic Blockade.
  • Shield – Higher rank Shields have increased damage absorption, as well as duration
    
  • 
    
    • Basic
      
      • Damage Absorbed: 300
        
      • Duration: 30 Seconds
    • Moderate
      
      • Damage Absorbed: 375
        
      • Duration: 40 Seconds
    • Advanced
      
      • Damage Absorbed: 450
        
      • Duration: 50 Seconds

Shield and blockade OP, please nerf, k,thx,bye  

[ShadowWarg]

G4M5T3R, on September 02 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

[HWK]ZamboniChaos, on September 02 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

• Tuning Points
  
  • Pilots no longer earn Optimization points through leveling a mech. Instead, they now earn Tuning Points by increasing their Pilot Level.
    
  • Starting at Pilot Level 5, pilots will begin earning Tuning points. A total of 30 Tuning Points can be earned.
    
  • Pilots will use these points to customize the Tuning Systems of their mech. Each mech has 7 Tuning Systems points can be placed into.

How will these points work exactly, long term I mean_ Let's say the year is YYYY and X new mechs have been added. The way I understand it is at some point you will need to swap tuning points around to each mech you want to use prior to starting a match. Simply due to owning too many mechs and not having enough points... (Basically it sounds like LoL but you only get 30 runes.)~ish

I just asked that. The answer:

[HWK]ZamboniChaos, on September 02 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

ShadowWarg, on September 02 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

I was also going to ask about weapon balances. Kind of disappointed the shield wasn't reverted, or at least sticking shield onto others wasn't removed though.

About the tuning points. These are universal and in a limited amount if I am reading this correct (limit: 30). That means that a player can only fully optimize 4 mechs and players are going to have fav mechs and be prioritizing some of there mechs over others. Not that I'm complaining, I think this is interesting and look forward to seeing how this plays out.

Edit: Was also looking forward to having 3 MK-I point d-turrets. O Well.

Tuning Points are universal (gained through Pilot Level) but they are not limited in the sense you are describing.

While the max amount of Tuning Points you can gain is 30, you have access to all 30 points for each mech you own.

Example: Even if I put 30 Tuning Points into my Berserker's Tuning Systems, I can still head over to my Infiltrator and spend 30 Tuning Points customizing its Tuning Systems as well.

[baconbriefs]

[Astrolis]

[HWK]ZamboniChaos, on September 02 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

ShadowWarg, on September 02 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Rajhin, on September 02 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Astrolis, on September 02 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

• Vanguard – Vanguard Turret
  
  • Base movement increased from 200 to 475
    
  • Damage taken from the front reduced by 55%
    
  • Damage taken from the back increased by 50%

Can not wait to chase A-class down in turret mode!!!

Thats actually a bit more than half of A-classes speed which is 850 afair.

Lol so when you think about it, its not that fast at all.

Perhaps not as fast as lightning, but I have been known to terrorize many an A-class with my Turret Mode Brawler thanks to that boost.

When first heard about this from AB players I was sad I didn't get to play it while in testing. Glad the wait is almost over!

[BiO]

G4M5T3R, on September 02 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

How will these points work exactly, long term I mean_ Let's say the year is YYYY and X new mechs have been added. The way I understand it is at some point you will need to swap tuning points around to each mech you want to use prior to starting a match. Simply due to owning too many mechs and not having enough points... (Basically it sounds like LoL but you only get 30 runes.)~ish

Nop... is more like the masteries systems in LOL.

[Rajhin]

Astrolis, on September 02 2013 - 02:44 PM, said:

still so fast considering its in turret mode and it has silly dmg reduction.

You should also consider that +50% backstab and weird FoV in turret mode.

Will we get new mechs and guns stats prior to sep.5_

[ragnak]

No balance changes _ Adding new problems before resolving old ones is a bad move.

So its possible to use detonator and H.E grenade at the same time, over 200 damage from items alone souds kinda silly, especially that you can reduce the cooldown.

Shield still looks overpowered and Evasive Device is just a bad design =/ (its already super easy to run in most situtations when you are an A mech, now it will be impossible to catch someone if he plan on running).

All the new balance issues that i can already see are kinda frightening.

[HWK]ZamboniChaos, on September 02 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

No, your level 25 mechs will automatically be Mech Rank 5.

@Zambonichaos, could you confirm that there are no balance changes _ To be honest, for me its a deal breaker as this was the main thing i was waitng for in this patch =/ (i  was also expecting NEW mech, major disapointment in this case but with all the balance issue its no wonder that we wont get a new one)

Edited by ragnak, September 02 2013 - 02:58 PM.

[Audible_Silence]

WOW that's alot of notes.  love the new visual customization to the mechs. very excited. time to get back in the pilots seat.

[[HWK]ZamboniChaos]

ragnak, on September 02 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

So its possible to use detonator and H.E grenade at the same time, over 200 damage from items alone souds kinda silly, especially that you can reduce the cooldown.

There is a short cooldown that occurs after an item is used. This is to prevent simultaneous item use like you mentioned.

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@Zambonichaos, could you confirm that there are no balance changes _ To be honest, for me its a deal breaker as this was the main thing i was waitng for in this patch =/ (i  was also expecting NEW mech, major disapointment in this case but with all the balance issue its no wonder that we wont get a new one)

From the patch notes:

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As a result of these new systems, it was necessary to rebalance just about everything regarding the existing mech classes. We will provide more information on these changes going forward.

[ECVTrueno]

[DaPheel]

Level 3 shield:

450 damage absorbtion and 50 second duration_



TIME TO SHIELD ALL OF THE THINGS!

Edited by DaPheel, September 02 2013 - 02:59 PM.

[Duralumi]

I hope you removed the ability to stick shields to people. That is an absolutely broken ability.

[kanalgravare]

Exeon, on September 02 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

Do people just choose to ignore the fact that the reconstructor's require you to be out of combat_

Well, Scouts and Infiltrators can disengage from combat pretty much whenever they want. I hope the timer for counting as OOC is pretty long.

[Rocky1822]

That's just so awesome....
so moving on, what IF I have 2 MK-2 items and 2 MK-1 items__
the HUD has only 3 item display panels right_

[Creepy_Hitchhiker]

[HWK]ZamboniChaos, on September 02 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

ShadowWarg, on September 02 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

I was also going to ask about weapon balances. Kind of disappointed the shield wasn't reverted, or at least sticking shield onto others wasn't removed though.

About the tuning points. These are universal and in a limited amount if I am reading this correct (limit: 30). That means that a player can only fully optimize 4 mechs and players are going to have fav mechs and be prioritizing some of there mechs over others. Not that I'm complaining, I think this is interesting and look forward to seeing how this plays out.

Edit: Was also looking forward to having 3 MK-I point d-turrets. O Well.

Tuning Points are universal (gained through Pilot Level) but they are not limited in the sense you are describing.

While the max amount of Tuning Points you can gain is 30, you have access to all 30 points for each mech you own.

Example: Even if I put 30 Tuning Points into my Berserker's Tuning Systems, I can still head over to my Infiltrator and spend 30 Tuning Points customizing its Tuning Systems as well.

I have another question. Are there any limits in allocation of Tuning Points_ I mean, can I invest max Y points in X system and rest spend in others, or can I spend all 30 points for example in cooling system_

BTW
Thanks for lots of informations.
Time to prepare for 5th September.

Edited by Creepy_Hitchhiker, September 02 2013 - 03:10 PM.

[Sylhiri]

DaPheel, on September 02 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

Level 3 shield:

450 damage absorbtion and 50 second duration_

TIME TO SHIELD ALL OF THE THINGS!

Well it's not so different from now then, lol.

Also, I noticed the lack of Detonation Device...

Edited by Sylhiri, September 02 2013 - 03:03 PM.

[ragnak]

[HWK]ZamboniChaos, on September 02 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

ragnak, on September 02 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

So its possible to use detonator and H.E grenade at the same time, over 200 damage from items alone souds kinda silly, especially that you can reduce the cooldown.

There is a short cooldown that occurs after an item is used. This is to prevent simultaneous item use like you mentioned.

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@Zambonichaos, could you confirm that there are no balance changes _ To be honest, for me its a deal breaker as this was the main thing i was waitng for in this patch =/ (i  was also expecting NEW mech, major disapointment in this case but with all the balance issue its no wonder that we wont get a new one)

From the patch notes:

Quote

As a result of these new systems, it was necessary to rebalance just about everything regarding the existing mech classes. We will provide more information on these changes going forward.

Faith restored, thank you. You should made that part more visible tho, im not the only one missing that part from this wall of text ;p (especially that i skiped that part because i thought is just something unimportant).

[ExtremeUnction]

Woah I haven't been this excited about a game since I first discovered Hawken.

"Performance

• We've made some major improvements to optimization in our efforts to make HAWKEN a more enjoyable experience for everyone. Frame rates, latency, and overall game stability have all been improved. If you were having trouble playing HAWKEN before, we encourage you to try again! You should have a much smoother experience now.
  
• Spawning Logic tweaked across all maps and game modes."

God.. Thank you. Hopefully Deathmatch will no longer turn into Kill-the-guy-that-spawns-behind-you-match.

Turret mode has always seemed silly to me and I've never used it but now that it can use thrusters_ I can only imagine that looking hilarious but I'll wait and see.