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Poll: Predator (157 member(s) have cast votes)

Is the predator too weak

  1. Yes, it needs better weapons (56 votes [24.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.03%

  2. Yes, it needs to be able to stay invsible when firing (16 votes [6.87%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.87%

  3. Yes, it needsto be able to stay invisible when laying mines (48 votes [20.60%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.60%

  4. Yes, the heat sensor needs to work regardless of stealth (21 votes [9.01%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.01%

  5. Yes, it needs some (other) improvment (45 votes [19.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.31%

  6. No its balanced (39 votes [16.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.74%

  7. No its overpowered and should be weakend (8 votes [3.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.43%

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#1 RolfS

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Posted November 17 2013 - 02:58 AM

I think in the current game the predator is too weak. I don't think there is a big reason for the heat sensors to turn off when hit or firing or for the predator to become visible when firing.

I don't see anyone playing it, sure last time I played it I got positive K/D ratio but only becuase I used the predator as a mine layer to damage opponents. The Predator deserves better than that.

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Posted November 17 2013 - 03:44 AM

Maybe a little less heat gen and immunity to hellfire locks while cloaked.

Otherwise nothing else wrong with it.
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Posted November 17 2013 - 04:07 AM

EOC Pred is funny but

1. let it detonate in mid air and

2. Even though I like the EOC ... PLEASE NOT 2 EOC ON ONE MECH D: It's disgusting, it feels like my cocktail is oversweeted. Make the Breacher as a Prestige weapon and Increase the dmg around 15-20 then we have a fully unique new mech :)

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Posted November 17 2013 - 04:09 AM

Maybe a bit more of punch to its default primary weapon might help as well.

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Posted November 17 2013 - 05:08 AM

I think the problem with the Predator is that it takes a long while to learn.
I believe it's balanced because there are players out there who use it on a regular basis and do really great with it... They top their team's leaderboards consistently and play really well, with a mix of ambush and face to face combat.
Personally, during the time I've played the Predator, it felt a bit awkward but it's really down to learning it, as it is with every other mech out there.

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Posted November 17 2013 - 05:23 AM

View PostdEd101, on November 17 2013 - 03:44 AM, said:

immunity to hellfire locks while cloaked.

THAT'S ALL IT NEEDS !

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Posted November 17 2013 - 07:56 AM

a little burst to the breacher would be cool imho.

At the moment i use the breacher only as a finisher. Mines do all the job quite often

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Posted November 17 2013 - 08:35 AM

Predator is balanced when it is Rank 5...not to say a little less heat wouldn't be nice :ph34r:
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Posted November 20 2013 - 07:24 AM

As already stated, immunity from hellfire lock on while cloaked would really really help. It's very unfair that while walking around or even stationary while cloaked I get locked on by mechs and even sometimes the ship in Siege mode!!! Many rage, such lame, very boo. wow.

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Posted November 20 2013 - 08:53 AM

View PostRolfS, on November 17 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

I think in the current game the predator is too weak. I don't think there is a big reason for the heat sensors to turn off when hit or firing or for the predator to become visible when firing.

I don't see anyone playing it, sure last time I played it I got positive K/D ratio but only becuase I used the predator as a mine layer to damage opponents. The Predator deserves better than that.
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wow, are u kidding me.

the predator is my "GO-TO" mech if i want to secure a win.    the predator in my opinion is way more effective than most mechs out there. it's how you use it.
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Posted November 20 2013 - 08:55 AM

and i refuse to record any gameplay footage of my predator in fear that they w/ill be nerfed....

only kill shots
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Posted November 20 2013 - 10:49 AM

View Postangryhampster, on November 20 2013 - 08:53 AM, said:

View PostRolfS, on November 17 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

I think in the current game the predator is too weak. I don't think there is a big reason for the heat sensors to turn off when hit or firing or for the predator to become visible when firing.

I don't see anyone playing it, sure last time I played it I got positive K/D ratio but only becuase I used the predator as a mine layer to damage opponents. The Predator deserves better than that.
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wow, are u kidding me.

the predator is my "GO-TO" mech if i want to secure a win. the predator in my opinion is way more effective than most mechs out there. it's how you use it.

Your go to mech changes alot ay hampster last time it was raider :P

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Posted November 20 2013 - 11:22 AM

it was raider. but i found them to be too easy to play. lol

i get more satisfaction from a predator.

okay fine, predator is my go-to mech for satisfaction and winning.

as long as i don't play A mechs, i'm happy.  because when i pilot an A mech, i feel too overpowered, go through a guilt trip, and just stop playing the game completely.    A mechs are way too overpowered, hence why i don't play one.
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Posted November 20 2013 - 11:33 AM

i actually havent played in a while but i think that if the predator had a rework of the eoc secondary it would be good. the weapon needs a faster travel time followed by a lower heat gen. other wise its just a sneaky raider and is damn fun to play. on top of the fact stalker vision doesnt work on all resolutions but i already got that bug fix in the works....

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Posted November 20 2013 - 12:44 PM

View PostdEd101, on November 17 2013 - 03:44 AM, said:

Maybe a little less heat gen and immunity to hellfire locks while cloaked.

Otherwise nothing else wrong with it.

100% Agree and yet I would add:

5,6 seconds of laying mines will cause all enemies to reach you or get two shots from a sniper or locked missiles. In addition to weapons, the Breacher doesn't seem to do enough damage to a bit farther distance than 3/4 map (tested on Eco) and doesn't penetrate any armor at a distance (fully charge).

The problem right now is overheating even with maximum heat optimization. And yes I know the 3-5 players that make the best of it, but in other 99% cases the players didn't really manage to help the team (80-160 Final Score).

And despite all this I really like the mechanics and capabilities of the Predator. Just fun and so refreshing gaming experience. Yes, definitely a conflict here. ^ ^_^^

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Posted November 20 2013 - 06:49 PM

Even before things like asking for the breacher to be the dominant weapon and not the EOC all I ask is that the invisibility does not allow hellfires to lock on (or the enemy ship, if that's possible).

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Sure thing! :D Thanks for being constructive.
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Posted November 24 2013 - 03:33 PM

View Postoyoy, on November 20 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

View PostdEd101, on November 17 2013 - 03:44 AM, said:

Maybe a little less heat gen and immunity to hellfire locks while cloaked.

Otherwise nothing else wrong with it.

100% Agree and yet I would add:

5,6 seconds of laying mines will cause all enemies to reach you or get two shots from a sniper or locked missiles. In addition to weapons, the Breacher doesn't seem to do enough damage to a bit farther distance than 3/4 map (tested on Eco) and doesn't penetrate any armor at a distance (fully charge).

The problem right now is overheating even with maximum heat optimization. And yes I know the 3-5 players that make the best of it, but in other 99% cases the players didn't really manage to help the team (80-160 Final Score).

And despite all this I really like the mechanics and capabilities of the Predator. Just fun and so refreshing gaming experience. Yes, definitely a conflict here. ^ ^_^^

I think the reason being for so fast overheating (correct me if I am wrong) but I think the EOC P is the only secondary that can actually overheat itself.

[HWK]ZamboniChaos, on December 10 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

Sure thing! :D Thanks for being constructive.
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Posted November 25 2013 - 02:02 AM

View Postangryhampster, on November 20 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

it was raider. but i found them to be too easy to play. lol

i get more satisfaction from a predator.

okay fine, predator is my go-to mech for satisfaction and winning.

as long as i don't play A mechs, i'm happy.  because when i pilot an A mech, i feel too overpowered, go through a guilt trip, and just stop playing the game completely.    A mechs are way too overpowered, hence why i don't play one.
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Posted November 25 2013 - 06:29 AM

I had 20 Grand in HC for the Predator, got no idea where they went...
I`ll fix it later.

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Posted November 25 2013 - 04:36 PM

Is it fun and interesting... yes it is it pretty cool... but is it practical... NO. An infiltrator could do the job ten times faster ten times better and escape.

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