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[Lightangel112]

Lt_Popescu, on May 03 2014 - 10:37 AM, said:

You know what what make predator better, if i could fire pucks like the EOC repeater rapidly if charged on the EOC predator, but they last forever, like how they do now...

The weapon then would be more OP than ever before, dealing 480 burst dmg in the same amount of time it takes the EOC R_ No way that is happening, unless it charged only 3 pucks at a time, but taking as long to charge as it would to normally fire it imo.

Edited by Lightangel112, May 05 2014 - 05:26 AM.

[Meraple]

I love how most people that have voted think Predator needs buffs.

[Grendel_Echo]

Voted for "overpowered and should be weakend", since I think no mech should have possibility to kill another mech in a second.
Give him more power and will kill 2 mechs in a second . Way off from good balance .

[Hunderpanzer]

I feel the predator's heat sensor ability is too short ranged.

[Meraple]

Hunderpanzer, on May 07 2014 - 10:43 PM, said:

I feel the predator's heat sensor ability is too short ranged.

It actually has a pretty long range; I'd say it goes up to a medium distance.

[Lightangel112]

Meraple, on May 08 2014 - 12:44 AM, said:

Hunderpanzer, on May 07 2014 - 10:43 PM, said:

I feel the predator's heat sensor ability is too short ranged.

It actually has a pretty long range; I'd say it goes up to a medium distance.

I agree. Also I dare say that if you adjust your ini files a little bit, you can see targets further away in the distance, this even works against Predators. I could take some screenshots of this to demonstrate it. From my point of view to anothers pov.

[Aregon]

Lightangel112, on May 08 2014 - 01:06 AM, said:

Meraple, on May 08 2014 - 12:44 AM, said:

Hunderpanzer, on May 07 2014 - 10:43 PM, said:

I feel the predator's heat sensor ability is too short ranged.

It actually has a pretty long range; I'd say it goes up to a medium distance.

I agree. Also I dare say that if you adjust your ini files a little bit, you can see targets further away in the distance, this even works against Predators. I could take some screenshots of this to demonstrate it. From my point of view to anothers pov.

Isn`t that abusing the ini. files for your own good, giving you an upper hand_

[Lightangel112]

Aregon, on May 08 2014 - 05:59 AM, said:

Lightangel112, on May 08 2014 - 01:06 AM, said:

Meraple, on May 08 2014 - 12:44 AM, said:

Hunderpanzer, on May 07 2014 - 10:43 PM, said:

I feel the predator's heat sensor ability is too short ranged.

It actually has a pretty long range; I'd say it goes up to a medium distance.

I agree. Also I dare say that if you adjust your ini files a little bit, you can see targets further away in the distance, this even works against Predators. I could take some screenshots of this to demonstrate it. From my point of view to anothers pov.

Isn`t that abusing the ini. files for your own good, giving you an upper hand_

I'm not sure specifically sure which ini files, but I'm sure it has something to do with light. Cause the heat gets converted into light in heat vision. I wouldn't call it abusing, anyone can do this and it is also allowed. I changed the ini files so I could get the best performance out of my fuzzy bunny laptop. It just so happens that in Predator I gained a little extra mileage on its ability.

Edited by Lightangel112, May 08 2014 - 07:32 AM.

[Aregon]

Lightangel112, on May 08 2014 - 07:28 AM, said:

Aregon, on May 08 2014 - 05:59 AM, said:

Lightangel112, on May 08 2014 - 01:06 AM, said:

Meraple, on May 08 2014 - 12:44 AM, said:

Hunderpanzer, on May 07 2014 - 10:43 PM, said:

I feel the predator's heat sensor ability is too short ranged.

It actually has a pretty long range; I'd say it goes up to a medium distance.

I agree. Also I dare say that if you adjust your ini files a little bit, you can see targets further away in the distance, this even works against Predators. I could take some screenshots of this to demonstrate it. From my point of view to anothers pov.

Isn`t that abusing the ini. files for your own good, giving you an upper hand_

I'm not sure specifically sure which ini files, but I'm sure it has something to do with light. Cause the heat gets converted into light in heat vision. I wouldn't call it abusing, anyone can do this also and it is allowed. I changed the ini files so I could get the best performance out of my fuzzy bunny laptop.

If you say so, but for me it sounds like abusing.

[Lightangel112]

Aregon, on May 08 2014 - 07:32 AM, said:

Lightangel112, on May 08 2014 - 07:28 AM, said:

Aregon, on May 08 2014 - 05:59 AM, said:

Lightangel112, on May 08 2014 - 01:06 AM, said:

Meraple, on May 08 2014 - 12:44 AM, said:

Hunderpanzer, on May 07 2014 - 10:43 PM, said:

I feel the predator's heat sensor ability is too short ranged.

It actually has a pretty long range; I'd say it goes up to a medium distance.

I agree. Also I dare say that if you adjust your ini files a little bit, you can see targets further away in the distance, this even works against Predators. I could take some screenshots of this to demonstrate it. From my point of view to anothers pov.

Isn`t that abusing the ini. files for your own good, giving you an upper hand_

I'm not sure specifically sure which ini files, but I'm sure it has something to do with light. Cause the heat gets converted into light in heat vision. I wouldn't call it abusing, anyone can do this also and it is allowed. I changed the ini files so I could get the best performance out of my fuzzy bunny laptop.

If you say so, but for me it sounds like abusing.

A lot of the ini files are to do with shadows and lighting, as well as textures etc. But lighting and shadows make up most of the stuff your computer needs to waste processing power on, if you lower these settings, they don't become a large priority anymore. In context to this thread, it makes Predator less Bad imo, though in your opinion gives me an unfair advantage and abusing some elements of the game. This debate can also be said for 1st person view and previously the ability to chance FOV at willl.

Edited by Lightangel112, May 08 2014 - 07:39 AM.

[mikailah]

Im new to hawken and made my first purchase of predator and as my mech, i have fun with predator so far not great on topping scores but still fun to play with

[xeroslash]

I've been playing mostly Predator as of the current Test Drive roster (ended up buying my own), and if the only buff I get is being able to detonate my EOC-P puck mid-air, I'll be a happy pilot. Even if it would also detonate all of my existing mines, I'll be fine with it too.

But even despite that, I'm pretty happy with the Predator.

[n3onfx]

Meraple, on May 05 2014 - 05:27 AM, said:

I love how most people that have voted think Predator needs buffs.

I voted that's it's fine as is, because of you.

More seriously, I have little experience with the mech. I played it a bit today and first impressions are that it has serious burst potential. I could kill A classes suprisingly quickly, other classes needed to be softened up already to get those kills.

But damn that mech overheats fast, if I could suggest changes it would be lowering that heat generation before anything else. The weapons seem fine on it apart from overheating.

You do have to change how you play, moreso than any other mechs I've played even though I play Infiltrator the most. You'd think it's similar in the sense you want to stay discrete and flank but no, it requires to rethink how you play. Tring to play it similarly to an Infil made me perform horribly the first games. I'd wager that most people saying it's underpowered haven't adapted to the playstyle of a mech that's completely different than what they are used to.

edit: Oh and I'm all for Hellfires not being able to target through cloak, I've always found that annoying. I get that Hellfires shouldn't lose track of the target if it cloaks after the lock-on, but being able to lock through cloak should go.

Edited by n3onfx, May 16 2014 - 12:18 PM.

[KilleR_OrigiNs]

I'm all for buffing, trust me on that, but at the same time you have to realize that the Predator is a time-in-mech based gameplay. If you expect to pick it up like a scout and get fantastic kill counts... You won't.

It doesn't need buffing, since the update it's almost too powerful in my eyes. Being able to stalk prey at an expedited speed only makes it harder to get away from them. Buffing it again would truly over power it, and it's buffing would be removed quickly.

You have to understand that players who play the mech often will receive more kills than a player who uses it (albeit incorrectly) to lay mines as area control (and solely for area control). I don't like playing games where one mech has a solid upper advantage over other players, and I don't ever want to see that happen with my favorite AXE, my recommendation is to leave it be, of if absolutely anything, nerf it in some way or another.

[talon70]

It's vision alone makes it arguably the most powerful mech and the fact it kills a zerker in one click is OP. No other mech can deliver a single click kill I don't think.

EOC repeater is a spam..... oh I am going to play some Pred now.

btw, Spies have no soul.

:yinyang:

[Artist]

n3onfx, on May 16 2014 - 12:16 PM, said:

edit: Oh and I'm all for Hellfires not being able to target through cloak, I've always found that annoying. I get that Hellfires shouldn't lose track of the target if it cloaks after the lock-on, but being able to lock through cloak should go.

Hellfire lock is fine. The cloak only makes you less visible, but does not affect your heat signature (preds see other mech, cloaked or not). Seekers lock on heat that's all.

[ticklemyiguana]

At some point in the unspecified, possibly long term future, I'll make a video guide. For the time being, all I have is this to say. The predator is on the verge of being overpowered.
I am serious.

[TwentyFirstPilot]

talon70, on May 17 2014 - 10:30 AM, said:

It's vision alone makes it arguably the most powerful mech and the fact it kills a zerker in one click is OP. No other mech can deliver a single click kill I don't think.

EOC repeater is a spam..... oh I am going to play some Pred now.

btw, Spies have no soul.

:yinyang:

Uhh.. The only thing the Pred can kill in one click is a scanner/scrambler. I think. That may actually require two clicks, I don't remember.

[Meraple]

ticklemyiguana, on June 29 2014 - 09:00 PM, said:

For the time being, all I have is this to say. The predator is on the verge of being overpowered.
I am serious.

It may be on the verge of being overpowered, but it's hard to hit with it.

[Lightangel112]

ticklemyiguana, on June 29 2014 - 09:00 PM, said:

At some point in the unspecified, possibly long term future, I'll make a video guide. For the time being, all I have is this to say. The predator is on the verge of being overpowered.
I am serious.

I bumped into Comic_Sans Pred smurf account the other day (InvisibleDad). Now he gets why the mech is so deadly lol.

Edited by Lightangel112, June 30 2014 - 03:12 AM.