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[ArchMech]

WEAPONS sheet "complete"
it is now available @: Shosca's Hawken Salty Stats under "Weap. 2017 "soft""
or you can find it @: H(A/O)WKEN 2017™ (omg so salty) my WIP (work in progress) sheet for 2017 change log
 
disclaimer:

Spoiler

i did my best, mind the color code, legend at the bottom, no other sheets edited yet, weapons was the BIG one so i got it done first

 

kudos:

discord hwknchill

Shosca

Ashfire

Coldform (he knows why)

Edited by ArchMech, 02 June 2017 - 03:52 AM.

[nepacaka]

tank u

[wischatesjesus]

TLDR:

• Less heat generation across the board.
• B3AR:BBY got what looks to be a significant nerf to spread but also a DPS buff.
• Nief seeker does 30 damage to regular seeker's 50. Locks on in a narrower cone but has more powerful tracking.
• 3 seconds on charge cannon is good for 160 damage. Unclear if this is the maximum damage.
• Significant buff to EOCR damage, EOCXT does 33% less damage than regular EOC.
• New revgl does less than half the DPS of old revgl, gets minor buffs to projectile speed and splash falloff.
• Ord pistol does 40 damage, 1.25 second refire. Similar DPS to slug rifle but with lots more heat.
• Miniflaks on charge as compared to regular MF do about 75% damage and 65% heat per shot.

Did I miss anything.

[peacecraftSLD]

TLDR:

• Less heat generation across the board.
• B3AR:BBY got what looks to be a significant nerf to spread but also a DPS buff.
• Nief seeker does 30 damage to regular seeker's 50. Locks on in a narrower cone but has more powerful tracking.
• 3 seconds on charge cannon is good for 160 damage. Unclear if this is the maximum damage.
• Significant buff to EOCR damage, EOCXT does 33% less damage than regular EOC.
• New revgl does less than half the DPS of old revgl, gets minor buffs to projectile speed and splash falloff.
• Ord pistol does 40 damage, 1.25 second refire. Similar DPS to slug rifle but with lots more heat.
• Miniflaks on charge as compared to regular MF do about 75% damage and 65% heat per shot.

Did I miss anything.

 

This was a good read.

 

Arch, thanks for the info.

Edited by peacecraftSLD, 02 June 2017 - 07:26 AM.

[ArchMech]

TLDR:
Did I miss anything.

sabot buffs, MASSIVE buffs, buffed like you wouldn't believe, nobody buffs better then RLD/505 games
120 damage up from 110 (scoped)
90 damage far up from 75 (scoped)
 

• 3 seconds on charge cannon is good for 160 damage. Unclear if this is the maximum damage.

yes, how specifically that wasn't clear isn't my fault, its either yours or RLD's

Edited by ArchMech, 02 June 2017 - 04:39 PM.

[Chaplain5]

TLDR:

• Less heat generation across the board.
• B3AR:BBY got what looks to be a significant nerf to spread but also a DPS buff.
• Nief seeker does 30 damage to regular seeker's 50. Locks on in a narrower cone but has more powerful tracking.
• 3 seconds on charge cannon is good for 160 damage. Unclear if this is the maximum damage.
• Significant buff to EOCR damage, EOCXT does 33% less damage than regular EOC.
• New revgl does less than half the DPS of old revgl, gets minor buffs to projectile speed and splash falloff.
• Ord pistol does 40 damage, 1.25 second refire. Similar DPS to slug rifle but with lots more heat.
• Miniflaks on charge as compared to regular MF do about 75% damage and 65% heat per shot.

Did I miss anything.

 

So, the new Vanguard is... going to play pretty differently?

 

Nief is going to be higher skill, higher accuracy?

 

No offense RLD, but what have you done to the Grenadier??

 

I'm really eager to get into an Ord cockpit and try the MAG Pistols out.

 

So Charge is optimized for lengthier spurts of shooting Miniflak than, say, the Scout? 

[ArchMech]

TLDR:

• Less heat generation across the board.
• B3AR:BBY got what looks to be a significant nerf to spread but also a DPS buff.
• Nief seeker does 30 damage to regular seeker's 50. Locks on in a narrower cone but has more powerful tracking.
• 3 seconds on charge cannon is good for 160 damage. Unclear if this is the maximum damage.
• Significant buff to EOCR damage, EOCXT does 33% less damage than regular EOC.
• New revgl does less than half the DPS of old revgl, gets minor buffs to projectile speed and splash falloff.
• Ord pistol does 40 damage, 1.25 second refire. Similar DPS to slug rifle but with lots more heat.
• Miniflaks on charge as compared to regular MF do about 75% damage and 65% heat per shot.

Did I miss anything.

its an 0.8 second refire, it fires 1.25 rounds per second (aka 2)

in other words ord dual magnum has an effective 1 second alpha+beta burst value of 160, vs slug sabot 1 second alpha of 180

thats not including any of the ord's damage scaling from heat

Edited by ArchMech, 03 June 2017 - 12:44 PM.

[Draigun]

ORD still feels a bit weak for it's passive ability. If it's going to be passive, it should do something. A conservative 5-10% increase of DPS related to heat gen output would be a great start.

[ArchMech]

draigun it already does that:

@Ability - Heat Sink

 

   (0){HeatScalingFactor} = 0.400000 (proportional)

keep in mind magnums are 40 damage and 6 heat or 6% of your total heat for this:

10% heat 41.6 

25% heat 44 

50% heat 48 

75% heat 52

85% heat 53.6

90% heat 54.4

 

now remember they have a refire time of 0.8, they don't need a "dps" change because they are BURST oriented =)

 

once hitboxes are fixed these things will wreck i guarantee you will not want to face down this^^^ or a 36m, get them splash weapons ready

Edited by ArchMech, 04 June 2017 - 02:31 PM.