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[Analysis]

Scapes, on May 03 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Mechs

• Increased all mechs starting armor by 50.
  
  • Designer's Note: We wanted to increase time-to-kill (TTK) for all mechs and decided on a flat rate over a percentage. With a too much of a percentage, trying to kill a Type-C mechs would push overheating limits. If we made the percentage too small, Type-A mechs TTK will still be too short. We'll be watching for player feedback and gameplay data to determine if this first step towards a TTK sweet spot is in need of tweaking in future patches.

Maps

• NEW Map: Facility
  
  • Available for Team Deathmatch, Missile Assault, and Deathmatch.
    
  • Facility-only servers will also be available as Custom Servers for a limited time.
    
  • New Facility map Service Awards available to unlock.
• Assorted map collision and art adjustments, mostly focused on Front Line.

Customizations

• Holo Taunts
  
  • Increased duration from 7 to 10 seconds.
    
  • Increased size by 10%.

Items

• Blockade
  
  • Decreased armor from 1000 to 750.
    
  • Increased duration from 13 to 15 seconds.
• Shield
  
  • Increased damage absorption from 300 to 350.
• Detonator
  
  • Decreased damage from 155 to 140.
• Repair Charge
  
  • Decreased absorption rate by 30%.

Gameplay

• Mech Indicators
  
  • Increased size of ability icons and callsigns.
    
  • Enemy health bar indicator will now always display as long as you can see their callsign.

General Improvements

• Added taunting to post-match results screen. Press "G" to Mech Taunt and "H" to Holo Taunt. Additionally, press "Spacebar" or "Left Shift" to fire up your thrusters.
  
• Graphics optimizations including weapon projectiles, weapon trails, weapon impacts, explosions, thrusters, map textures, lighting, and more.
  
• Graphics updates for Helix Repair Torch, Blockade, and Redox-O2 as well as some mech textures and PhysX materials in maps.
  
• Audio tweaks including impact sounds, radio chatter distortions, and more.
  
• Swapping weapons in the Garage now has an animation and shimmer effect.
  
• Cleaned up localization text.

Slower kill times really_ What is your ideal kill time_ Will it stop when the kill times get long enough to create a chain letter with my opponent_

+50 health to all mechs since killing a tech was already to easy_ More mech blobs coming...

I'm very concerned about the reduction of heal rate from orbs. So you want it to be nearly impossible to go solo or win a 2v1 fight now_ I run commando in general since I can't stand two mech blobs fighting. Hawken is at its best in 1v1, 2v1, and 2v2 in my opinion.

Still no change to Heat_ How can this God gun remain unchanged_ How can you justify the speed of the projectile with the inclusion of splash.

The direction of this game continues to baffle. I guess I should say "good job" since it appears many others find these changes good.

Not sure why shield damage absorption was increased. Who likes fighting an invincible opponent_

The only aspects I can agree with that are in the patch:
- improved holo taunt functionality
- textured Facility
- enemy health always visible if in sight.
- updated graphics options

This patch sounds as troubling as the Technician patch. Pre-patch excitement level 1/10. I wish the Hawken team would just say they want the game more like Mech Warrior so I could just drop this game completely.

[WarlordZ]

So, wait, you're buffing armor at a flate rate across the board, even though A class mechs are top-tier_  So technicians still have fast regeneration, stackable construction beams, and now they're gaining +10% more health_  This sounds bad.  Maybe the increased health bars everywhere will overwhelm the techs a bit, but I'm really worried about this further messing things up.

Edited by WarlordZ, May 05 2013 - 10:54 AM.

[Elix]

Analysis, on May 03 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

Slower kill times really_ What is your ideal kill time_ Will it stop when the kill times get long enough to create a chain letter with my opponent_

Considering that you can drop a mech from 100% to 0 in about 4 seconds, TTK is possibly a little too low right now.

Also, the repair charge healing rate's been reduced because between dropped/deployed repair charges and techs, rediculous tanking capability currently exists in the game. From 1 hp, with a repair charge, repairing, and a tech, a C-class can be back on its feet incredibly fast considering its giant HP pool by comparison to the smaller classes.

[ropefish]

i need to get some mc to buy the new items ,heh heh heh......

[Phos]

This patch sounds like a bad idea that almost completely misses the point.  More death glob stalemates ahoy.  

No siege changes no tech nerfs no SA Hawkins buff, Vulcan still mostly harmless and you guys still won't just surface the raw numbers.

Edited by Phos, May 03 2013 - 08:32 PM.

[Silk_Sk]

Guys! Look! Numbers...

[The_Eldritch_Abomination]

Umbre, on May 03 2013 - 07:01 PM, said:

SystemiK, on May 03 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

Been away for awhile.  Can someone explain the "auto-redeem" part of the notes_  Can't seem to get my head around what this actually means and I was unable to find anything from looking around the forum.

I think it means that rather than searching the store for the mechs, they just automatically get added to your list.

The_Eldritch_Abomination, on May 03 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

Can't wait to have 930 health on my Rocketeer...

932 with the 3.5% health optimization, with another 8 if using the movement tree health bonus (but you shouldn't, since it offers almost nothing), and a total of 985 health with all of the optimizations + health internal.

Well, I was close...

[The_Eldritch_Abomination]

Silk_Sk, on May 03 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

Guys! Look! Numbers...

[Phos]

Silk_Sk, on May 03 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

Guys! Look! Numbers...

If this is meant to be a response to me, then 2/10 get better at trolling.

[u53r]

Yes! Finally sound updates! that should have been the featured item of this update lol

[Silk_Sk]

Phos, on May 03 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

Silk_Sk, on May 03 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

Guys! Look! Numbers...

If this is meant to be a response to me, then 2/10 get better at trolling.

How silly of me.

[Guiotine]

Phos, on May 03 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

you guys still won't just surface the raw numbers.

because none of the below show the actual values changed.

Scapes, on May 03 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

Mechs

• Increased all mechs starting armor by 50.

Customizations

• Holo Taunts
  
  • Increased duration from 7 to 10 seconds.

Items

• Blockade
  
  • Decreased armor from 1000 to 750.
    
  • Increased duration from 13 to 15 seconds.
• Shield
  
  • Increased damage absorption from 300 to 350.
• Detonator
  
  • Decreased damage from 155 to 140.

[Aims]

Well this was certainly unexpected, and only a few days away too. Will be interesting to see how it plays out... especially the repair charge/detonator changes.

Excited for the Graphics and Sound improvements

[LucasAshrock]

I played the test version of this map, it's a nice one. A bit messy but fun

[GunnerMonkey]

You devs are doing an amazing job... easily the best F2P game I've had the pleasure of experiencing. Thank you for the continued effort.

[CTalon]

All I see; is that there is NO   adjustments to the Technician's Ability: Amplification and Helix Repair Torch especially considering  its vampiric ability (and to make matters worse, now giving it an extra 50 armour...Lord help me/us)      P.S. Imho its absolute madness that this hasn't been dealt with in some fashion, considering all the discussion in the forums

Edited by CTalon, May 03 2013 - 11:28 PM.

[ropefish]

CTalon, on May 03 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

All I see; is that there is NO   adjustments to the Technician's Ability: Amplification and Helix Repair Torch especially considering  its vampiric ability (and to make matters worse, now giving it an extra 50 armour...Lord help me/us)

there aren't even that many people using em any more

[CTalon]

ropefish, on May 03 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

CTalon, on May 03 2013 - 11:20 PM, said:

All I see; is that there is NO   adjustments to the Technician's Ability: Amplification and Helix Repair Torch especially considering  its vampiric ability (and to make matters worse, now giving it an extra 50 armour...Lord help me/us)

there aren't even that many people using em any more

They are still out there, and we will more than likely see a lot more of them after this patch considering the armour buff coming (sucking the health out of you as they repair while hopping around, while also firing their RPR at you)

Edited by CTalon, May 04 2013 - 12:40 AM.

[Krellus]

This is awesome. So glad facility map is done! As for the other changes, anything that increases TTK is good with me. Looking forward to seeing how the new patch changes things, esp re Det vs HE charge, and Shield/Blockade v Repair orb.

Interesting that Tech healing was not reduced.... however. Hmm.

[v009]

Increased the health of shield. :S Can you make these not deployable on a mech by your team mate please. Also are the price of all offensive and defensive items coming down_ After this patch it will be better off with shield than repair orb yet it cost double the price.