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Epsilon_Knight

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I thought we could use a thread for abjectly bad ideas; the worst things you can imagine being done to Hawken, in terms of balance, and possibly your sanity.  I've found it can be very therapeutic and fun to take the metaphorical piss and completely overshoot any semblance of balance.  With a bazooka. Post your ideas as either earnest suggestions or as patch notes for maximum effect.  I even encourage the devs to get in on the action, have some fun guys! :D

 

Without further ado, I'm gonna kick this debasement off!

 

  • New 3-slot composite armor item: 25% reduction in damage after death.  Effect persists until the pilot achieves 4 kills or 8 assists.
  • New Mk IV Scanner with four uses!  With this new addition, up to four scanners per player can now be dropped and active simultaneously!
  • Red aura on the Heat Charge item was found to be too obvious and graphically taxing.  It has been moved to all grenade secondary weapons.
  • Within 150m of any Brawler, at any time, John Cena's theme will play continuously.

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Mini-Nukes

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We totally need a back dodge.


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MFW Howken

 

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Fake walls and IA team mates in TS games. Smurfing quality posts on important issues with fake stuff with fake.com links to fakef*ck servers. Crashing while enjoying and... that would be whatever for now



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Zeus ultimate.


Mind the fact that pizza is my avatar.
Pizza is cool and you know it.

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If this is meant to be a joke topic full of outrageous suggestions, then either of the Mess Hall boards are a better place for it.

 

However, if this to be a topic of suggestions that could be easily implemented, are frequently suggested, or seem reasonable initially, but would be a horrible thing to add to the game, then I'm all for this thread.  It could serve as an easy way to summarize THINGS HAWKEN DOES NOT NEED, AND WHY.

 

I don't have any ideas right now, I'll come back later.



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Become the battle ship in siege ... Kill everyone!!!!!
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(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy bunny into
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And if you dont .... 

 

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We totally need a back dodge.

*mech sits down HARD on its dairy-air*

 

 

Become the battle ship in siege ... Kill everyone!!!!!

Lol, this would be so much fun. XD



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Ikr!!! XD

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And if you dont .... 

 

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Or we could become bread... And fight our way to being toast by getting in da thrusters !!! XS

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Every mech except the zerker should be deleted from the game forever and anyone with an MMR of exactly 2416.3369140625023 should have unlimited health, heat, and items.


What's the big fuzzy bunnyng deal? Lots of amazing people have committed suicide, and they turned out alright.

 


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Nerf the G2 Raider. Guys, seriously; it can't be stopped!
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incin G2: double ppas, unlimited heat,  spash bullets, and the more heat you have the bigger the splash damage on each bullet is


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A cutesy plush of Laila in a maid costume. Hmm...

 

(Wait, this is the bad ideas thread. Then again, Laila doesn't strike me as the subservient maid type.)


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A cutesy plush of Laila in a maid costume. Hmm...

 

(Wait, this is the bad ideas thread. Then again, Laila doesn't strike me as the subservient maid type.)

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all secondary weapons are now on a .25 second cooldown


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Epsilon_Knight

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If this is meant to be a joke topic full of outrageous suggestions, then either of the Mess Hall boards are a better place for it.

 

However, if this to be a topic of suggestions that could be easily implemented, are frequently suggested, or seem reasonable initially, but would be a horrible thing to add to the game, then I'm all for this thread.  It could serve as an easy way to summarize THINGS HAWKEN DOES NOT NEED, AND WHY.

 

I don't have any ideas right now, I'll come back later.

Joke thread.  It is much more difficult to recognize, and especially convince others, that a frequent suggestion would be terribad.  Such a thread would be long-winded and take people skilled at articulating the objective impacts of changes convincingly, if the purpose is actually to inform others and prevent some number of further suggestions for a bad change.

 

All of that is a lot of baggage more fit for the Old Guard than myself.  I'm alright with the thread being moved if we're srsbzns only here.  Just thought folks here could use a chuckle.  And I like absurdity, that too.



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MELEE WEAPONS.


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7-legged unicorns of doom flying around titan with 2 tows bringing death everywhere!

No joke, a dev posted a pic of that in the old forums (responded to my irony). WHERE IS IT?!
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Pre-Ascension broken one-way sticky Shield+pre-nerf 90% Failsafe+pre-nerf Tech with Redox(x6)+PPA Incin(x6)+24-player Uptown TDM server

how do balance meta help


Edited by JeffMagnum, 04 May 2015 - 09:33 PM.

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- Rocket turret was underpowered so now it has hellfires
- Incin heat management was too difficult. Instead of overheating, it automatically uses ability.
- A class armor increased by 50%
- C class mobility increased by 50%
- B is fine
- Hovering uses heat instead of fuel
- Inf is permanently cloaked, use ability to uncloak for 5s
- Orb item now has a lifetime of 30s instead of fixed amount of health
- Barrier deals damage (this might be a good idea in fact?)
- HC is used as ammunition

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My idea of Bitchin Zerker Cape and Superman logo.   ALso one-time use super rocket booster item.  It would throw you like 50 meters at an incredible rate. 

 

 

Why can't robots have collision damage?   Add collision damage so when i raider into somebody at full speed we get hurt.  Maybe make a crash armor internal then too.  it would add another dimension to fighting and facehugging. 


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Come on Crafty, you have been officially called out on your lies. Your online reputation is at stake here, this is just like an old school street race running for pink slips. Its run what you brung and hope its enough. Put up or shut the fuzzy bunny up.


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REMOVE DODGE COOLDOWN.


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Moba

Mind the fact that pizza is my avatar.
Pizza is cool and you know it.

 <3 HAWKEN

 

 

 


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-Machine Gun Turret needed more Dakka, so we upgraded it with four point-D vulcans

 

-Game didn't feel realistic enough, so we added various special effects with bullet casings that fly out of your guns processing be damned!

 

-We got sick of people playing the game for free, all HC has been replaced with MC, so pay up chump! 



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I like the turrets use actual mech weapons idea.  Sabot turret!   EOC turret!  MINIFLAK TURRET!!!      TECH BLUE-BALLZ TURRET!


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Come on Crafty, you have been officially called out on your lies. Your online reputation is at stake here, this is just like an old school street race running for pink slips. Its run what you brung and hope its enough. Put up or shut the fuzzy bunny up.


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Rocket jumping
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Moba

 

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Make all dodges last as long as the player keeps pressing down the associated keys, allowing you to dodge all the way across the highway on Frontline should you so desire. this works great with deflectors btw.


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3rd person view you say?


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Bring back pre-ascension hawken!


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How about we bring back the simultaneous deployment of items?
I remember the days of the true alpha strikes

Charged eoc + grenade launcher + det + gren = bada big boom


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We totally need a back dodge.

 

Thread is for BAD ideas, not best ideas ever.

 

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How about we bring back the simultaneous deployment of items?
I remember the days of the true alpha strikes

Charged eoc + grenade launcher + det + gren = bada big boom

It's still somewhat possible - although the ~0.1s delay isn't exactly simultaneous, it's fairly close.

I'll leave figuring out how to you. :teehee:


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The combo almost met the criteria for the ropefish mininuke


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7-legged unicorns of doom flying around titan with 2 tows bringing death everywhere!

No joke, a dev posted a pic of that in the old forums (responded to my irony). WHERE IS IT?!


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PRAISE MECHICORN

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MECHICORN IS LIFE


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Moba

 

The Museum Of Bad Art (MOBA) is the world's only museum dedicated to the collection, preservation, exhibition and celebration of bad art in all its forms.

 

http://museumofbadart.org/


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Tweak the Blockade item so instead of having a health pool its duration is dependent on the life of the player who deployed it.  it stays up indefinitely and is unable to be taken down so long as s/he who used it stays alive.  Also, this is not limited to just one blockade per user per life.



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- Blockade deploys with current orientation, but has infinite width.

 

- Bubble shields cannot be walked through, but can be stood upon OR walking through bubble shields leaves a hole in the side.

 

- Hellfire A-class

 

- ISM disruptor now drops and disperses 20 baby bomblets that proc the same effect with staggered detonations.

 

- Killstreaks (battleship bombardment, mortar strike, 1HKO item unlock)

 

- No dodge cooldown


Edited by comic_sans, 05 May 2015 - 10:20 AM.

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All weapon cooldowns are removed.

 

Dropoff from any weapons is removed.

 

Raider's ability lasts forever is always active, and cannot be disabled, but plays this: 

 

 

to everyone in the match, at full volume.

 

Unskippable start screen.


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