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[nepacaka]

I notice that HAWKEN is still have the "Early Access" label in Steam.

Why?

sometimes people just think it is not free, because it have a early access. due to regular practice in steam. it can confuses people. Better just made only Free-to-play button.

 

1) Site

2) Steam

 

 

someone, please call the Gabe Newell and solve this problem with black magic marriage solution!

HOW IT SHOULD BE !!!

 

3) babaji

 

it's better now...

[Houruck]

A free to play game can be early access as well. People should know that it is still in beta because they can spend real money on things.

[HepTagoN]

Good job for spotting this flaw. +1

[HepTagoN]

A free to play game can be early access as well. People should know that it is still in beta because they can spend real money on things.

Acording to hawken website, accounts shall not be wiped out in any way when hawken will leave beta stage. Plus, calling hawken 'beta' is meh

[nepacaka]

A free to play game can be early access as well. People should know that it is still in beta

 

we all know that "beta" tag is just a formality.

 

I noticed it only because in the russians forum community one novice player asked: "how much this game cost?"

[crockrocket]

I mean, it IS early access...

[Hijinks_The_Turtle]

They downside to being called 'Early Access' is the negative conotations that come with it, THAT AND the fact that most people have played Hawken before and didn't like it much will probably try to steer players away from it for thinking it's a death trap and P2W despite Reloaded's changes. :C

[Guns_N_Rozer]

Babaji Ability 

[eth0]

I recall Adhesive gearing up to remove the Beta label soon before they went quiet. Maybe it was just last minute hopes, but going one-point-oh and having Hawken shine in Steam's Free-to-play section would be nice. Early access just screams "sketchy development" to me.

[HassanTheAssassin]

 

 one-point-oh

1.0

sorta like the old Duke Nuke'm fiasco.

that's funny.

check the release number in the top left of your garage.

[eth0]

1.0

wun-puynt-augh
Whatever the release number is, hawken is playable, shoppable, and still in beta.

[(KDR) Seron16]

Just get rid of the label, only hurts the player-base being on there especially since the game has all main features already in the game.

[StubbornPuppet]

I think the smart play is to just leave everthing on Steam exactly like it is for right now.

 

First impressions are the most important and long-lasting impressions - and almost impossible to overcome.  If Reloaded makes a change to the Steam account right now, especially one that marks the game as "released", tons of new players will download it and come rushing in.  And so many people think, "That's exactly what the game needs right now."   But is it?

 

I love Hawken very much, and I think it's been in a perfectly suitable state playability wise for a very long time.  However, there are a lot of problems in Hawken right now (one of which is painfully obvious but never seems to get any discussion on the forum - the persistent Adhesive and Meteor branding all over every part of the game), and I think it would be a huge detriment to its longevity to have a bunch of new players come flooding in while there are still problems being solved, updates being constantly made, changes to the balancing, changes... changes in general, and the game's still branded by a company that doesn't exist when they downloaded it through another company.  I think every chance to avoid a bad impression is, at this point, a good decision.

 

Once the Reloaded folks have really had a chance to get the ball rolling and put Hawken back on solid footing, then they should relaunch on Steam.

[DM30]

Depends on what you think is worse, I guess:

The stigma of a game that has been "early access" for a long time (not Reloaded's fault, but a reality anyway), or,

Presenting the game as complete and having players disappointed by unstable servers still being worked on, in-progress matchmaking, and missing clan/social features just to name a few.

I would personally prefer it if the beta label stayed on until they had better tutorial, a better system for protecting brand-new players from games with massive skill gaps and more reliable server performance at least.

Edited by DM30, 06 July 2015 - 11:55 AM.

[Pure_Amazing]

The game has all main features already in the game.

 

I'm afraid it doesn't mean they have been implemented correctly. Take Siege for example or the games balance. What would you rather play while a game is development, a game with with its all features poorly implemented, or a game that doesn't have all its features yet but what is implemented is implemented in a great way.

 

We all know how the term "Alpha" and "Beta" has been majorly screwed over with developers. There are 3 types of games that have a development tag (Alpha, Beta etc.)

 

1. A game that never seems to leave Alpha/Beta (DayZ)

2. A game that has all of its features poorly implemented and the game will be released in a more or less broken state

3. A game that implements its features in a complete state but takes a bit longer for the game to be released (Prison Architect anyone???)

 

Don't release this game yet, its not ready for another rush of players (The game will hit the front page once it exits Early Access). The same thing will happen as the last time one minute loads of players next we are back to square one Don't waste that opportunity like adh did when it hit steam in the first place.

 

Just my opinion atm, take what you will from it.

[(KDR) Seron16]

Looking at it that way I can understand keeping the label on. I was more looking at it from the side of Early Access literally meaning early acess, like this game might crash every 5 seconds because we just started to make it a month ago. Hawken is still definitely a beta in that its still need a lot of work, I just wasn't thinking anyone was getting "Early Access" because this game was opened to the public back in late 2012 early 2013ish.

 

But coming from the points you guys make then it may better to keep it on than take it off.