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[Pumapaw]

Your now down to 69 players on a Friday night on US PC servers. I can guess your amazing update has killed the rest of this game.

[Amidatelion]

Double what I saw before the 64 man servers.

Why are you like this?

[Gueber]

Bring back 64 man servers!

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

Double what I saw before the 64 man servers.

Why are you like this?

 

He is Pumapaw.  That is enough.

[DieselCat]

Puma's point is like a sharp stick poking you...it'll get your attention....something to think about....

[nepacaka]

Your now down to 69 players on a Friday night on US PC servers. I can guess your amazing update has killed the rest of this game.

to be honest, every second question/topic in russian community (in vk.com/hawken) right now is:
(with 4 variants)
- this game no more work at win 32?
- my game crashes after/before match
- i don't see floor when game loading
- i got 0xNUMBERS error, what i should do?

despite we don't have many players in ru community in general, we have about 5k (they receive a newsletter in the social network), every time when i post something (info about update for example), some people see this, and return to check what happen.
this are only people who only "active" in internet. but you probably understand, that most of people who playing in online games don't visit forums, or don't post something. they just want play in game (press fukn button "ready", and kill some mechas). so, when they faced with such sort of difficulties, they don't ask how, they just delete game, because it is not working now.

at current moment, game diffinetely "unplayable" if you have work-PC, if your have notebook, or if you don't skilled with IT.
many regular players, who playing long, use conf and don't have a problem, but there alot of players who playing just for fun, they don't want kill the graphics to stay for gameplay, they just want to see mechs in game.

it is how i see situation after update.

in generally, to making hapken great again, it should have:
- good FPS while game (minimum drop to 30 with low settings for weak PC)
- should be can run on potatoes with 2GB DDR.
- hapken should get х86/х32 build.
- should have in game the fifth option - "back to 80-ish" setting. which make you graphics worse, ruin landscape, but let you see +/- good mechs (i mean, don't get rid quality from mechs, but simplier all others elements of game (bacoz this game about mechs))

---

the things which not related with your Comp $ quality. 

1) insane Grind for average players.
in 2012 hawken grind was a super-fast. 
in 2013 hawken grind was ~= MWO.
in 2017 hawken grind is much higher than in MWO, and higher than ANY  online games which i play (i mean definitely ANY)

imo, whole economics in game sux right now. it is hard even for me. grinding 75K when you also need internals and other things make player a "hostage" of Assult mech, if they start play right now (which is not interesting/stupid mech in general, and can't demonstrate you all hawken tricks)
imo, cost should be 5000 HC for all G1 mechs. and 15000 HC for all G2 mechs. this is enough to allow people fast open a G1 versions, get all mech and try/see mechas and growth in mech tree. But if you want G2, you should put some effort. it is not bad. plus, game now have alot of internals, it is a field for player experiments, and it is also required alot of money to buy it.


another things - is a insane difference between sustain and alpha-sprike weapons. the stuff is all about "good player vs nub". early weapons like heat be a good alternative of AR/SMC, and many players pick some sort of these mechas for regular game. many people whining in past that "heat was imba, etc", but in reality, such sort of weapons don't allow you kill enemy very fast, because you spent time for charging, and hiding for reloading, etc. with sustain weapons you just to look at enemy about ~3 sec and it die. so, there is no reason to use Alternative weapons, if you can kill anyone who play worse than you in 3 seconds, yes?
even if the result of this is the same (noob player die anyway), now it most of time die almost immideately. when the early player probably have a feeling like he "do something" in game, trying to catch a pro-scout, which kitting him. anyway, he spent 15 sec. to running from corner to corner and than die. now they just die under Assault crossfire so fast, doesn't matter what he trying to do.
it is only my own opinion based on my experience. i personally think, than the deleting of dynamical spread in 2013 was a mistake. I mean, it does not equalize the situation like "noob with sustain VS pro with alpha-strike", it is only make a situation "noob with sustain VS pro with sustain" much more worse. imo.


things which look a very stupid, ridiculous and "grredy devs wants get rig ma money"
- Crosshair types and colors should be free. i many times say that it is ridiculous for shooter, it is all player feeling.
like a "i don't play in shooters so much... but when i do, i play with comfort"
especially, when we have a grind like now, which not allow new player spent a some credites on crosshair which he want, because he accumulate money to buy a new mech. weird.


bugs. many of them. don't want to talk about it so much, bacoz i'm optimist and believe than c05 can fix it (but as i pessimist i understand that it taking so long time for one man, or probably impossibru fix them all).
But thing which c05 really should do - return game chat.

in general
- fix game for win32 (imo, techicall issues is main reason why player numbers shortened)
- decrease grind a little (at least, decrease cost of all G1 mechs, to make it like a test-drive)
- return chat. it is needed.
- nerf sustain. make full of hawken mechs palette and diversify on a battlefield great again.
- maek custom crosshairs free (dis fokn game is p2w, greedy devs!!! lel.)
 

Edited by nepacaka, 17 June 2017 - 12:03 AM.

[ArchMech]

to be honest, every second question/topic in russian community (in vk.com/hawken) right now is:
(with 4 variants)
- this game no more work at win 32?
- my game crashes after/before match
- i don't see floor when game loading
- i got 0xNUMBERS error, what i should do?

despite we don't have many players in ru community in general, we have about 5k (they receive a newsletter in the social network), every time when i post something (info about update for example), some people see this, and return to check what happen.
this are only people who only "active" in internet. but you probably understand, that most of people who playing in online games don't visit forums, or don't post something. they just want play in game (press fukn button "ready", and kill some mechas). so, when they faced with such sort of difficulties, they don't ask how, they just delete game, because it is not working now.

at current moment, game diffinetely "unplayable" if you have work-PC, if your have notebook, or if you don't skilled with IT.
many regular players, who playing long, use conf and don't have a problem, but there alot of players who playing just for fun, they don't want kill the graphics to stay for gameplay, they just want to see mechs in game.

it is how i see situation after update.

in generally, to making hapken great again, it should have:
- good FPS while game (minimum drop to 30 with low settings for weak PC)
- should be can run on potatoes with 2GB DDR.
- hapken should get х86/х32 build.
- should have in game the fifth option - "back to 80-ish" setting. which make you graphics worse, ruin landscape, but let you see +/- good mechs (i mean, don't get rid quality from mechs, but simplier all others elements of game (bacoz this game about mechs))


in general
- fix game for win32 (imo, techicall issues is main reason why player numbers shortened)

im sorry nepa, from what im told they can't use unreal 3.5 to give us a 32 bit or a dx9 hawken option, nor can they have a merged server environment with unreal 3/3.5 client builds

nor should they be asked to recreate the old legacy environment solely for 32bit/dx9? (yea right, of course they should be asked this, they should be forced, sued, coerced, threatened, attacked, etc until they do *begins handing out pitchforks and torches, and fruit punch*)

Edited by ArchMech, 17 June 2017 - 12:24 AM.

[nepacaka]

im sorry nepa, from what im told they can't use unreal 3.5 to give us a 32 bit or a dx9 hawken option, nor can they have a merged server environment with unreal 3/3.5 client builds

nor should they be asked to recreate the old legacy environment solely for 32bit/dx9? (yea right, of course they should be asked this, they should be forced, sued, coerced, threatened, attacked, etc until they do *begins handing out pitchforks and torches, and fruit punch*)

i'm just say that there exist amount of prayer which use 32 bit, and they don't play now, because game not working now.

for example, MWO have a category of people (mostly they are adult men who not understand nothing in new techologies), which still play at old notebooks with 25-30 fps and always whining at mwo-forum that this game is bad optimised.
it is online-games reality. many people just want to play in their fav. game and don't care about graphics. they probably don't care about fps too, all what they need - is a launching a game which they playing long time on their potatoes. most of time it is people, who always play in your game. just because they do dis. maybe they even don't know why they do this xD. they don't care about overwatch and other new games releases which are more cool or more popular. they just want to play in game which they get used to it.

Edited by nepacaka, 17 June 2017 - 01:01 AM.

[William_Adama]

if your still using a 10+ year old pc that has 32 bit with windows xp its time to get a new pc man get with the times.

Edited by William_Adama, 17 June 2017 - 01:25 AM.

[nepacaka]

if your still using a 10+ year old pc that has 32 bit with windows xp its time to get a new pc man get with the times.

World of Tanks developers specially leave a "soft-client" when they added a new HD-graphics. because their auditory have a lot of adult people who play 5 minutes while work/break, or just playing on a old PC/working note. just because it is a big amount of auditory (they are not super big like half, but it is big numbers if we talk about millions). 

there is also part of auditory in WoT who play an average PC, but use special texture-pack for WoT (which ruine landscape like plastic-config), and allow them play for gameplay. this also shortened client size from 10 GB to 2-3 GB. and i don't think it is worse.

maybe i'm not rich, and i'm live in cheap country. i'm build a house, and it required money, maybe i don't have a free 1000$ to buy a new cool PC with 16 Gb ram. did you know than people in different countries have a different standard of living, and receive different wages. if you can pay 1000$ free, for me it is not a small money which i can throw just because i just like play in hawken (due the fact, that now i'm almost not play in any other online-games).
What i'm trying to say... there are different people which have different reason why they play on cheap PC, or something else what they do. if they want play on old PC, let them do this.

it is mean that you, like a developer, break a game for 100 people with cheap/average PC, to make it better for 10 people with a High-end PC? i don't think it is correct logic, except if you not want short you game auditory. (this is probably directly related with your money, lol, but maybe i'm wrong.)

added to this a fact, that a hawken can working bad even if you have not bad PC (yeah, sometimes it happen). even if you have 4GB ram, hawken don't guarantee you Stabile 90-120 FPS in game, even on LOW settings. at the time, Unreal 2007 with the same engine give me stabile max FPS without any configs.

also, people who don't have good PC, mostly easily to play in online games and addict to them, because, they can't play free in new games like Doom 4, or something else. but games like Dota, HoTS, WoT, Robocraft, MWO (and any RPG-with-elves) running perfectly with 30 FPS on potatoes. well, 30 FPS is not perfect, but you can play in this game any time when you have free 10 minutes of your time.

just right now actually doesn't matter how you break hawken graphics, because hawken long time ago not look like hawken which we see in 2012. it also a fact that current hawken looking like a cheap-game, without volume smoke effects, and other cool stuff which ADH deleting in Ascension. so, not a big deal.

I can admit it, if the HWK:RLD be a look BETTER than 2012 hawken and have a higher PC requirements, it is - OK.
But i can't agree with higher system requirements when the game look WORSE than it was, lose a lot of effects, look unrealistic in general. to be honest, 2012 hawken with minimal settings not looking so bad like hawken which we have now, and was a more detailed.

"higher quality -> higher requirement", but not "lower quality -> higher requirement". it is not how it should be.

When RLD creating their update, i think "yeah, it is obviously will have a lot of bugs, but i have deal with it!", but i never think that they kill graphics so much and increase requirements. for the sake of what? bad looking graphics and unstable 30 FPS?


yes, Puma was a quite sharp and short with this.
but the players auditory really shortened, and it is just a fact/truth. and Devs shouldn't close their eyes on complaints from player side. so, puma don't say nothing wrong here. he just said the fact (but this doesn't have any sense, because everyone know this without him, and without creating a new thread about it :P).

Edited by nepacaka, 17 June 2017 - 02:56 AM.

[nepacaka]

quite the same example of the bad move for money from new time. is a new "power rangers" film. when the director without any reason added in a film for kids lesbo-ranger, and got 18+ rating.
this film is not really interesting for adults, because it is stupid so much, PR auditory growth from it (it was fun when i was young, but not now), and if you want attract them, you should be created a more serious story, with serious characters in a new world reality, than a film have (bacoz fans of PR now is 30 years old).
at the same time, next-gen kids grow with another new heroes, cinemas, animated films, they also not very interested in power rangers in general, but even if they want to see it, they can't, lol.

so, for which auditory this film was created? adults don't go into the cinema, because story is a super-stupid now (we are not in 90ish), and kids can't go on this film, because it is 18+. all what directors/creators of new PR do - lose their potential money, by making stupid story move.

the same with hawken. they get rid part of old players, but new players also not get it, because there is more attractive online-games now.
at the same time, there still exist only 2 online games for PC about mechs. HWK and MWO. and there is no alternatives. so, why not care about this auditory. yes it small, but you (i mean devs) probably should work for it, and work in the direction to attract and not lose them, if you want continue working on hawken.

[Elite_is_salty]

You're*

[ArchMech]

 added in a film for kids lesbo-ranger, and got 18+ rating.
 

-now showing on pronhub

[nepacaka]

-now showing on pronhub

i tink, vids when the Jobs stun scout through wall and the vytro deal alpha through whole bunker should be legal on pronhub soon.

Edited by nepacaka, 17 June 2017 - 12:05 PM.

[Rainbow_Sheep]

quite the same example of the bad move for money from new time. is a new "power rangers" film. when the director without any reason added in a film for kids lesbo-ranger, and got 18+ rating.

 

It's 12/12A/13 pretty much everywhere else but Russia. 

 

Because apparently having a gay character is "gay propaganda".

 

lol

Edited by Rainbow_Sheep, 17 June 2017 - 12:08 PM.

[nepacaka]

It's 12/12A/13 pretty much everywhere else but Russia. 

should i say that all my child friends watch PR serial when we was young? i'm also watch PR when i was young, it was cool. and i watch a new movie which is stupid anyway. i think, many of kids from russia be a fans of this serial long time ago, and i they maybe they want to go in cinema with kids on this, like for "nostalgie". 
it is a stupid move anyway. to be honest, i don't know that 18+ is only for russia, because IMDB show me 18+ rating (now i check it more, and i can info about all countries rating). but like i say, i don't know noone from my friends who don't know what is power rangers, get away part of these peoples is quite stupid. it is not about propaganda or something else, it is all about money. just a buiseness.
despite than fact, than there is very short moment about it, almost noticeable, this film is also get some sort of internet "discussion". where people divided on right and left side (like an always...). i personally feel, that this film can bring more money from russians fans than it earn. it is my personal opinion, maybe i'm wrong. i feel like they cut out some part of auditory. the question is - it was worth it?

due the IMDB this film is failed by money anyway (100m vs 120+ million profit, as i know it is not super good for film with such budget, probably it is a fail for such big franchise), but the profit from russia was very small, it definitely can be bigger. it doesn't help in general, because film is bad because it so stupid, not because propaganda or something else. but this does not cancel the fact, that you lost your potencial money, when you does such stupid moves (as i say, i know many friends who more or less know about it, maybe it is my personal experience). you (as a developer) should think about this, and use some sort of analyse for your auditory, to understand what you should do, to have a more profit. as i say, it is only about money. especially if you have a small team, and small amount of fans. let's be a realist here, hapken don't have millions for advertisement, and it is not stupid overwatch in which blizzards pay alot of maneyz, so, decreasing of population is bad anyway)

Edited by nepacaka, 17 June 2017 - 01:00 PM.

[WmMoneyFrmMissouri]

Maybe it's not propaganda or a money play. Maybe they're trying to be inclusive of people who are not like you or I.

[nepacaka]

i don't think that are "several millions" it is not a money for these peoples. but maybe i'm incorrect but, to shotened my idea.

1) what people want from PR? -> action. fun. some big robots transformation. some fokin' huge monster face beating.
2) what people get -> 2 hrs of born of heroes.stupid jokes about ranger color from internet (because they so tolerant and fear make a black ranger is black, like it was in old movie) NO big robot transformation. some fokin' huge monster face beating. 

so,
1) what people want from hawken update -> action. fun. some new mechas. everything things but better.
2) what people get -> game not launching. notebook is not enough to play anymore. bugs. crashes. everything things but worse.

i'm trying to be an optimist, but hwk reality look so bad.

Edited by nepacaka, 17 June 2017 - 01:51 PM.

[ReversusRex]

What even is this discussion...

[Soccu]

I would have to agree with puma on this one; they pretty much killed whatever was left of this game and playerbase with this update.

[Broham78]

I can admit it, if the HWK:RLD be a look BETTER than 2012 hawken and have a higher PC requirements, it is - OK.
But i can't agree with higher system requirements when the game look WORSE than it was

 

Truth.

[William_Adama]

nepa, your naïve you don't need 1,000 dollars to make a pc to play hawken

Edited by William_Adama, 17 June 2017 - 06:12 PM.

[Yummi_Kitteh]

to be honest, every second question/topic in russian community (in vk.com/hawken) right now is:
(with 4 variants)
- this game no more work at win 32?
- my game crashes after/before match
- i don't see floor when game loading
- i got 0xNUMBERS error, what i should do?

despite we don't have many players in ru community in general, we have about 5k (they receive a newsletter in the social network), every time when i post something (info about update for example), some people see this, and return to check what happen.
this are only people who only "active" in internet. but you probably understand, that most of people who playing in online games don't visit forums, or don't post something. they just want play in game (press fukn button "ready", and kill some mechas). so, when they faced with such sort of difficulties, they don't ask how, they just delete game, because it is not working now.

at current moment, game diffinetely "unplayable" if you have work-PC, if your have notebook, or if you don't skilled with IT.
many regular players, who playing long, use conf and don't have a problem, but there alot of players who playing just for fun, they don't want kill the graphics to stay for gameplay, they just want to see mechs in game.

it is how i see situation after update.

in generally, to making hapken great again, it should have:
- good FPS while game (minimum drop to 30 with low settings for weak PC)
- should be can run on potatoes with 2GB DDR.
- hapken should get х86/х32 build.
- should have in game the fifth option - "back to 80-ish" setting. which make you graphics worse, ruin landscape, but let you see +/- good mechs (i mean, don't get rid quality from mechs, but simplier all others elements of game (bacoz this game about mechs))

---

the things which not related with your Comp $ quality. 

1) insane Grind for average players.
in 2012 hawken grind was a super-fast. 
in 2013 hawken grind was ~= MWO.
in 2017 hawken grind is much higher than in MWO, and higher than ANY  online games which i play (i mean definitely ANY)

imo, whole economics in game sux right now. it is hard even for me. grinding 75K when you also need internals and other things make player a "hostage" of Assult mech, if they start play right now (which is not interesting/stupid mech in general, and can't demonstrate you all hawken tricks)
imo, cost should be 5000 HC for all G1 mechs. and 15000 HC for all G2 mechs. this is enough to allow people fast open a G1 versions, get all mech and try/see mechas and growth in mech tree. But if you want G2, you should put some effort. it is not bad. plus, game now have alot of internals, it is a field for player experiments, and it is also required alot of money to buy it.


another things - is a insane difference between sustain and alpha-sprike weapons. the stuff is all about "good player vs nub". early weapons like heat be a good alternative of AR/SMC, and many players pick some sort of these mechas for regular game. many people whining in past that "heat was imba, etc", but in reality, such sort of weapons don't allow you kill enemy very fast, because you spent time for charging, and hiding for reloading, etc. with sustain weapons you just to look at enemy about ~3 sec and it die. so, there is no reason to use Alternative weapons, if you can kill anyone who play worse than you in 3 seconds, yes?
even if the result of this is the same (noob player die anyway), now it most of time die almost immideately. when the early player probably have a feeling like he "do something" in game, trying to catch a pro-scout, which kitting him. anyway, he spent 15 sec. to running from corner to corner and than die. now they just die under Assault crossfire so fast, doesn't matter what he trying to do.
it is only my own opinion based on my experience. i personally think, than the deleting of dynamical spread in 2013 was a mistake. I mean, it does not equalize the situation like "noob with sustain VS pro with alpha-strike", it is only make a situation "noob with sustain VS pro with sustain" much more worse. imo.


things which look a very stupid, ridiculous and "grredy devs wants get rig ma money"
- Crosshair types and colors should be free. i many times say that it is ridiculous for shooter, it is all player feeling.
like a "i don't play in shooters so much... but when i do, i play with comfort"
especially, when we have a grind like now, which not allow new player spent a some credites on crosshair which he want, because he accumulate money to buy a new mech. weird.


bugs. many of them. don't want to talk about it so much, bacoz i'm optimist and believe than c05 can fix it (but as i pessimist i understand that it taking so long time for one man, or probably impossibru fix them all).
But thing which c05 really should do - return game chat.

in general
- fix game for win32 (imo, techicall issues is main reason why player numbers shortened)
- decrease grind a little (at least, decrease cost of all G1 mechs, to make it like a test-drive)
- return chat. it is needed.
- nerf sustain. make full of hawken mechs palette and diversify on a battlefield great again.
- maek custom crosshairs free (dis fokn game is p2w, greedy devs!!! lel.)
 

 

1. The UE 3.5 update is 64 bit only, once applied there is NO turning back. It crashes because it calls upon new driver calls for new shaders this is unavoidable with the move to DirectX 11. You don't see the floor most likely because your GPU does NOT have enough memory, or simply your CPU is not loading fast enough. The 0xXXXX errors are due to the transition and are most likely being worked on, these are file calls for files that are obviously not there (duh it's right there in the error report)

 

2. Your FPS is low because your GPU isn't good enough, integrated or "budget dedicated", are by no means good enough. Intel HD graphics support DirectX 11 by EMULATION, this means it supports DirectX 11 in software rendering ONLY it does NOT have hardware acceleration or support. Budget cards are just that, they're just enough to get by while you're in between upgrades. If it's brand new and costs less than $50 USD, DON'T BUY IT you're wasting your money. AMD my still be making the RX 450/550 but these are purely for 4K@60fps video NOT gaming.

 

2.5. As stated in 1. Unreal Engine 3.5 is native to 64 bit compliers, 32 bit versions (Think Batman: Arkham Knight here) perform WORSE that Hawken does presently. Your special graphics settings you share don't work entirely as your old inis did because of shader model changes, what worked in Shader Model 3.0 (DirectX 9), does NOT work in Shader Model 5.0 (DirectX 10/11).

 

3. Grind is assumed when playing for free, granted yes it makes no sense to remove HC/XP boosts but w/e, that's something that may be reworked and shoehorned in at a later date.

 

4. Cash bought items/bundles are there for a reason. Your playing the game for FREE, yes crosshair colors costs MC but they cost HC too, same with crosshairs themselves. Bandwidth and servers aren't free, employees don't work for free, Reloaded needs money from US the CUSTOMERS to keep afloat.

Wanna complain about prices of things, then tell people you know to boycott MC and steam bundles, see how fast the game actually for real dies. Publishers and Developers have finances and budgets, games don't meet their bottom line, employees leave, publishers abandon titles and games die. The only reason why Hawken has lived this long is because people have been buying things, they have been showing support.

 

The road ahead currently may be bumpy and rocky, but in time the move to DirectX 11 will pay with higher visuals, DirectX 11 as an example, supports HBAO+, much much larger textures, as an example here D3D9 can handle up to 256², where as D3D11 can handle 2048², cubed dimensions between the two are 4096³ for D3D9 and 16384³ for D3D11, not to mention DX11 supports constant buffer access, meaning much smoother texture transitions and loading/unloading, where DX9 didn't support constant buffer at all. In the end the game will look better while running better as a result of the upgrade.

[nepacaka]

nepa, your naïve you don't need 1,000 dollars to make a pc to play hawken

i don't need a 1000$ for new PC, because hawken working fine for me.

it is not about me. but i see many complaints about hawken crashes and fps lags.
it is not me have a 30 fps in hawken, because i fix it for myself free and play with 90.

Edited by nepacaka, 17 June 2017 - 10:42 PM.

[Zavier_]

What even is this discussion...

Was looking for some developer update, got this instead.

[6ixxer]

I think crosshairs should be an unlock item. Ie kill x hundred with a mech and get rewarded with a crosshair that that works better for that mech than the standard one, and only unlocked for that mech. For others you can buy it or earn the 'prestige' one for want of a better word.

I think the devs shouldnt have to make it run on 2gb. I think 3.2gb on a 32gb machine is a fair expectation. A single 4gb sodimm/dimm costs hardly anything.

Edited by 6ixxer, 18 June 2017 - 12:50 AM.

[System64]

Next step is advertisement.

[DingdongJR]

Next step is advertisement.

 

The next steps are putting out all the fires, fixing everything whilst not breaking more things and using community input to restore and develop Hawken. 

ONLY then, should they bother advertising. 

[dorobo]

I'm afraid potato people don't buy cosmetics..

[StubbornPuppet]

I completely disagree with Nepa's assertion that the game should be optimized to run on lower-performance machines.  This game needs to appeal to a new audience and one of the biggest selling/download points for ANY game a person tries is their first impression of the graphics.  Graphics can only be scalable to a certain range before compromise has to be made at the top.

 

I completely agree that "better, smoother gameplay" is more important (at least to me), but that just isn't what people are looking at by-and-large when they make their initial decisions about whether to get into a game.  It's sad, but it's true.

[ArchMech]

people

wot? we dont care about people dude, this is a game for robots, we're all robot here

quickly ostracize the meat bag!

Edited by ArchMech, 19 June 2017 - 11:54 AM.

[nepacaka]

This game needs to appeal to a new audience and one of the biggest selling/download points for ANY game a person tries is their first impression of the graphics. 

from which planet you came? because this game not look like it should look since 2013. (and it is impossibru return it back now)
 

should be optimized to run on lower-performance machines

 

well, maybe devs should start from fixing system requirements description in Steam, and delete part "Win 32/ Win 64"  from it and leave "Win 64 only" ?
cuz i'm tired answering on stupid questions like: "why my hawken not launching?" in private messages.

Edited by nepacaka, 19 June 2017 - 01:26 PM.

[StubbornPuppet]

^Fair enough Nepa.   You're right, the graphics got downgraded over time and hasn't looked like it ought to since 2013.  The earlier Alpha and Beta versions had a lot more detail and atmosphere.

 

Still, despite my not being an Illal native like yourself, I don't see much advantage to ensure legacy compatibility when they're trying to attract a new player-base.  If moving to the newer version of Unreal gives them more benefits and paves the way forward... I'd have to say it's better to sacrifice some potatoes.

[LoC_TR]

2013. (and it is impossibru return it back now)
 

[lafinjokinnumnut]

all i know is this game crashes ALL the time now..sometimes before i can even get a match started..i even put a steam account on another computer at another location and made a new hawken account on a new steam..i thought maybe they was giving the old players a bad install on purpose to get us off the game..but the fuker still crashes the same way..so i have moved on till they fix this dumpster fire

[nepacaka]

all i know is this game crashes ALL the time now..sometimes before i can even get a match started..i even put a steam account on another computer at another location and made a new hawken account on a new steam..i thought maybe they was giving the old players a bad install on purpose to get us off the game..but the fuker still crashes the same way..so i have moved on till they fix this dumpster fire

try to reinstall VC++ redist packets (and net framework too), update drivers. delete old configs files from my document (especially, if it stay from previous version of hawken), and let the game create new default configs.

if you have potato-pc, try to use plastic-config

if it not help - sit. hug the knees. cry.
 

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

if it not help - sit. hug the knees. cry.
 

 

And, the little water can sometimes help.

[System64]

The next steps are putting out all the fires, fixing everything whilst not breaking more things and using community input to restore and develop Hawken. 

ONLY then, should they bother advertising. 

Oh, and that too.
I said advertising because of how barren the player base is - I think one of the reasons this game is often so empty is because not many people really hear about it these days.

[EMEUTIER]

Honestly, I'm not touching Hawken again until they fix the mess that it is now.

[DeltaBravo]

I had the same mindset about the game after to soft update.  I refused to play Hawken and went about a month before I decided to fire up the game and document what I found to be bad.  That's when I realized that the game wasn't quite the disaster that I initially thought.  Now, the game has issues, don't get me wrong, but I am hopeful that the community outcry will result in some improvements.