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[coldform]

OK. Questions for the devs: his many lines of code, and how much of it is decently commented? If we could even get ball park figures, we might have a better idea of how long and how many it would take.

Until then I draw no conclusions.

[Sorroritas]

Time to release

Spoiler

HAWKEN 2

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[nepacaka]

Time to release

Spoiler

KRAKEN 2

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[hoghead]

[ticklemyiguana]

I felt this was as good a place as any for my 666th post.

[Source_Mystic]

I just went on hawken and they are offering collecter coins .. way to prove my point reloaded you can pay some company to mint collecter coins but you can not add any aditional content. By way I loved your addition to the hawken form rule and guidlines

" Call-Outs

"Calling out" other users or Team HAWKEN staff in the title or content of a thread or post" ??????????

How does that break any of the rules? lady tigs why the an addition to the rules and guidlines. Did I hit a nerve ? If i was wrong why not just post on the thread a time line or any thing new ?? I just wanted to know why it was there and you thinking regarding it. thanks

Edited by Source_Mystic, 06 September 2015 - 07:40 AM.

[Silverfire]

I just went on hawken and they are offering collecter coins .. way to prove my point reloaded you can pay some company to mint collecter coins but you can not add any aditional content. By way I loved your addition to the hawken form rule and guidlines

" Call-Outs

"Calling out" other users or Team HAWKEN staff in the title or content of a thread or post" ??????????

How does that break any of the rules? lady tigs why the an addition to the rules and guidlines. Did I hit a nerve ? If i was wrong why not just post on the thread a time line or any thing new ?? I just wanted to know why it was there and you thinking regarding it. thanks

Capnjosh has stated that this collector coin idea was from the coin minting company; they approached Reloaded and capnjosh agreed to it because 1. It'll bring in some extra cash 2. It's pretty much 100% not a distraction from the work at hand, like hiring, interviewing, improving on the backend, collecting data from surveys, working on the game. They are working on adding content. Like I have stated before in previous posts, they don't have the full staff to effectively push out content. Wait. Read my posts. Read the announcements subforum. Read the comments.

The coin minting company approached Reloaded for the coin, NOT the other way around. There is no out-of-pocket cost for Reloaded, per capnjosh.

The "addition" of that rule isn't even an addition. That rule has been in place since the inception of even the old forums under Adhesive/Meteor. So you're wrong, again.


You could do well to be informed about the subject before posting outdated comments like this. It'd make you look better.

Edited by Silverfire, 06 September 2015 - 06:23 AM.

[Source_Mystic]

Capnjosh has stated that this collector coin idea was from the coin minting company; they approached Reloaded and capnjosh agreed to it because 1. It'll bring in some extra cash 2. It's pretty much 100% not a distraction from the work at hand, like hiring, interviewing, improving on the backend, collecting data from surveys, working on the game. They are working on adding content. Like I have stated before in previous posts, they don't have the full staff to effectively push out content. Wait. Read my posts. Read the announcements subforum. Read the comments.

The coin minting company approached Reloaded for the coin, NOT the other way around. There is no out-of-pocket cost for Reloaded, per capnjosh.

The "addition" of that rule isn't even an addition. That rule has been in place since the inception of even the old forums under Adhesive/Meteor. So you're wrong, again.


You could do well to be informed about the subject before posting outdated comments like this.

 

 

 A couple of  flaws in your logic silverfire The rules have been around since the old hawken they have been posted by lady tigs she is not a part of the old hawken crew so unles she plagiarized them from the old hawken people what you say is not possable.

                                                                                                            

secondly I have no problem with mercandising the game  I  would even buy a coin or a   basball cap or other hawken stuff to support the game if and when reloaded acualy creates somthing new as of now nothing new has been created.. Not a damn thing. And untill they do that I will not support a game that produces no content.   Untill they do I would not buy mc or put a peny into hawken and i know many players that  are waiting for the same. If you want money work for it produce somthing otherwise why would I help support a game  that is neglected. I know from experance what hapends to games  that are neglected for too long. they fail to exist  in the long run. People put their  money in  when a   game shows improvment new content new maps new ways to play. I love hawken but ... All the dedicated players want to know is how long untill new content will be relised I am even fine with new mechs only being mc for 6 to 8 weeks ... this game need to generate revinue. I get that

 

Then do the small things fix  reaper , bruiser and rockeeter ablitys as well as hellfires. rocketter is not used in higher mmr games.  why ? hellfires are to easy to dodge. 

 

My point is do somthing .. because if you do not people will just leave to play other games that are producing somthing for there commuinity.

 

Interact with the players if somone is angry it is probley because they  are passionate.

 

 

Reloaded ,  peopel pay for content you are not producing  any so why would financially support a game or a team backing a game that produces no new content. you want decatitated players we want a dedicated  game development team.  show us that you are and your financial wories will solve themselves.

 

Untill you make hawken your own you are just standing on the  shoulders of the  people that did acualy make a game. untill you create somthing for youself and make it yours.   you are absentee landlord collecting rent and not fixing improving or doing squat for your commuinity.

 

Neglect for any long perious of time = game death 

 

I have seen it over and over I would realy like  to think that will not happen to hawken. but .......

Edited by Source_Mystic, 06 September 2015 - 08:37 AM.

[Silverfire]

Tiggs copied the forum rules from the old forums and changed the places with Adhesive and Meteor to Reloaded, AFAIK. Other than that there aren't many changes, if any. If I was unclear, I apologize.

And if you don't want to support the game financially until you see content, that's 100% okay. There's nothing wrong with that. You're being cautious with your funds. Good. The point is though that they are working on what they can at the moment until they have a full staff of the right folk. Thing they can't quite do is poke around with major balance changes like Hellfire stuff and ability rebalancing. That's big work requiring QA and programmers, stuff I don't think they have ready yet. You might think those are small changes but they're not. Small changes are increasing turret health and reducing scanner radius. Doesn't impact gameplay nearly as much as an ability change or Hellfire tweaking. The big changes they have been able to make is backend work, like servers and ping and everything that's been done thus far.

Once Reloaded has the right staff, I think then they can give us more definite roadmap for content. Hiring can take a range of time, so it's no telling when that'll be done. Once it is done, I do believe that we will see a more concrete post on the future of new content for Hawken.

Edited by Silverfire, 06 September 2015 - 08:37 AM.

[DieselCat]

Capnjosh has stated that this collector coin idea was from the coin minting company; they approached Reloaded and capnjosh agreed to it because 1. It'll bring in some extra cash 2. It's pretty much 100% not a distraction from the work at hand, like hiring, interviewing, improving on the backend, collecting data from surveys, working on the game. They are working on adding content. Like I have stated before in previous posts, they don't have the full staff to effectively push out content. Wait. Read my posts. Read the announcements subforum. Read the comments.

The coin minting company approached Reloaded for the coin, NOT the other way around. There is no out-of-pocket cost for Reloaded, per capnjosh.

The "addition" of that rule isn't even an addition. That rule has been in place since the inception of even the old forums under Adhesive/Meteor. So you're wrong, again.


You could do well to be informed about the subject before posting outdated comments like this. It'd make you look better.

 

I got my collector coin...should be here this week. 

 

Thxxx Cap'n Josh 

 

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I got my collector coin...should be here this week.

Thxxx Cap'n Josh

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Not trying to pop your bubble, but it's a 4 - 6 week lead time on the coins. And I'm first ^___-

[DieselCat]

Not trying to pop your bubble, but it's a 4 - 6 week lead time on the coins. And I'm first ^___-

 

Sorry..I confused the delivery time with the book I just ordered on Amazon....

 

But, I'm first ! They told me so. 

 

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[comic_sans]

And I'm first ^___-

 

What, do you want a medal or something?

[Panzermanathod]

I am interrupting my hiatus from Hawken to say this...

 

OP, your reasoning is wonky. But it's been said multiple times already.

 

Yes I am taking a break and hopefully something new will pop up. But at the very least I know they aren't going to have everything done in a week after they took things over. Even with that, there has been changes and tweaks. The non-acknowledgement of change is not the absence of change.

 

As an aside, geez I just saw the newest episode of Venture brothers where Dr. Killinger fought off 3 evil accountants with light sabers and all he had was an evil mary poppins umbrella.

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What, do you want a medal or something?

A coin will do

[Sylhiri]

A coin will do

 

I can send you one but I think it would melt by the time it gets there.

[MechFighter5e3bf9]

i HAVE BEEN PLAYING TEH BETTER OF THREE  years and well in that time jack squat has changed even with reloaded buying out hawken. Reloaded has had 6 - 8 monthes to do somthing as of yet I have see jack squat  in acuall fixes or new conent. Bruiser ality is still shitty at usual as is reaper as is rocketeer. hellfires are still fuzzy bunny due to the pre - reloaded nerf. No new maps no new content. All i see is money grubbing use what is already here.  They regurgatation   into bundels. reloaded wreching and pucking out fuzzy bunny that is already here .  Is that their  contrubution to halken ? In 8 monthes. RELOADED I AM CALLING YOU OUT ETHER PRODUCE SOMTHING NEW OR StOP PLAYING AT PRODUCING AND MAINTAINING An ACTIVE PROGRESSIVE GAME.

 

LETS LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO BE FAIR

 

 1 made a new server selection ( to be honnest this is jack squat you would have to had to do this anyway unless you bought halkens old servers with the game)

 

2  Made some minor changes to a few mechs

 

3 Tried to solve latency issues with you new servers ( again not acualy a progressive fix )

 

4 LOWERED MECH COST IN HC AND IN MC AS WELL AS PROMOTED HAWLKAN IN DOUBLE WEEKEND HC.

 

5  Bundeled already made items and mechs to sell ( nothing wrong with this if you did it along side new content but doing this alone looks like you just want to bleed hawken content that is already there without producing anything new.

 

 

NOW LETS LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE NOT DONE IN 8 MONTHES NOT ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT REAL PLAYERS CARE ABOUT

 

1 MADE  NEW MAPS

 

2 MADE NEW MECHS

 

3 FIXED ROCKETTEER ABLITY OR CREATED A NEW ONE

 

4 FIXED HELLFIRES ( BALLENCED THEM )

 

5 FIXED BRUISERS ABLITY  OR  CREATED A NEW ONE

 

6 TURED UP HEAT ON SMG  VULCAN OR ASSULT ..... THE SPAM ON  THES WEAPONS  BS COMPARED WITH BURST WEAPONS HEAT

 

7 AND THIS IS A BIG ONE YOU HAVE NOT FIXED voip IN GAME I COULD EXCUSE ALL OF THE ABOVE IF THAT ALONE WAS DONE AND YOU WERE WORKING ON THE OTHERS BUT NO,  NO VoiP IN GAME ....... WHY IS that ???  EVERY OTHER TEAM BASE SHOOTER HAS  voice over ip to talk to teams but you do not ???? why seriously come on. That is the  number one reason for this deatball bs that we have to deat with in game.

 

8 Game ballence is sH%$  you are ether on the team that is death balling   or you are being death balled no acceptions .

 

9 No new weapons

 

10 no new inturnals

 

11 no new items

 

 

 

In ESSENCE NOTHING NEW ... LET ME REPEAT THAT YOU HAVE PRODUCE NOTHING NEW THAT HAS NOT ALREADY EXISTEED IN THE GAME IN OVER 8 MONTHES ARE YOU SH&tING ME .........

 

 

I SAY IF YOU DO NOT PRODUCE SOMTHING NEW SOON YOU WILL LOOSE MORE PLAYERS AND YOU DESUREVE TO.

 

i LOVE HAWKEN  BUT AS I SEE IT IS DAY IS DONE YOUR ARE FALLOWING UP WITH THE SAME fuzzy bunny THE LAST COMPANY DID NEGLECT &  LAZYNESS AND NO INOVATION ... YOU ARE NOT HER TO  SAVE HAWKEN BUT TO BLEED IT  DRY OF BUNDELS OF $HIT THAT IS ALREADY MADE.

 

AND FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN ORGNIZED TEAMS THAT ARE GOING TO BASH ME AD SAY I AM NOT A  DIE HARD FAN I WAS HER WHEN THE GAME WAS DEAD I HAD 200 + FRIENDS IN THis GAME AND 90% LEFT I WAS PART OF The  TEN PERCET THAT STAYED. i WAS the  DIE HARD..

 

 

SO YOU ASK YOURSELF WHAT has  RELOADED ACUALY PRODUCED  THAT WAS  not ALREADY HERE THAT IS THE  ONLY QUESTION I WANT YOU TO ANSWER BEFOR YOU TEAR INTO ME.. BECAUSE AS IS I AM ABOUT DOne  WITH LIEERS AND CHEETS THAT JUST PULL A VAIL OVER PEOPLES EYES TO JUST MAKE A BUCK.

 

 

THAT IS MY OPPINION WHAT IS YOURS

 

SOURCE_MYSTIC

im just glad its still online and i still love balance

 

i precicted it would be about 6 mo to a year till i see a new content patch i expect this research into more than simply game development, sure fuzzy bunny can be done with a few of us even but even more planning with investors yadayada estimated this n that on how long segments take to get complete its just not as easy as firing up unreal ed 2 and pump out goodness these days HIGH STANDARDS AND  I WANT EM TO STAY take a year take two but i dont want to see blunders like the gimmicks in other games

Edited by MechFighter5e3bf9, 15 September 2015 - 02:38 PM.

[zorin1]

Now wait a second.

 

Maybe you said that because you might not have an official background in programming and are trying to make things seem harder than it actually is, but anyone who has any programming experience should have very little difficulty looking at someone else's code and figuring out what the code actually does.  This gets even easier if the original authors were competent programmers in the first place and used comments to document their own code.

 

In many job interviews dealing with programming (at least in my experience) its common to be handed a few sheets of paper with lines of code written on them and asked on the spot to explain what the code does.  Perhaps Reloaded should do the same on any job interviews they conduct in the future.

 

Sorry Bud,

It is not that easy to pick up someone else code.  Sure it is easy to look at one function and say what it does.  But to learn how all the piece fit together is a totally different thing.  I guess you never tried to modify someones perl or python scripts.  Some of these, it is best to scrap and rewrite it.  It just comes down to how complicated the code base is.