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[LadyTiggs]

Due to the Trans-Atlantic routing problems, we're extending the event by 2 days to Wednesday!

 

 

Last weekend's event went so swimmingly, we've got something that came in with high demand.  This time the rewards are some Pilot Emblems, one of which has not been released.

 

The requirements for this event?  Kill bots in either of the 2 CoOp Bot game modes.

 

The number of bots you kill by Monday, September 14th at 17:00 UTC (edit: Wednesday, September 16th at 17:00UTC) will reward different emblems (to be awarded by Thursday):

 

 

Kill 100 bots (usually 3,844 HC) "HWK Army":

 

 

 

Kill 300 bots (usually 288 MC) "HWK V2:

 

 

Kill 500 bots (usually only part of the"Battle Brigade Bundle" on Steam) "MEK-WINGZ":

 

 

Yeah, if you hit 500 kills, you'll get all 3 :)

 

We've added a bunch of BotsTDM servers, so join now and kill some bots!

 

 

Never knew you could change out your pilot emblem?  Well, you've been missing out!  In the Hawken Main Menu screen click on your pilot name at the top right, then click on your emblem and you can choose a new one.

 

 

 

Never heard of the "BotsTDM" mode?  Here's how to get to it:

 

From the Main Menu screen:

• Click "Play"
• Click the "CoOp Match" tab at the top
• Click the "Co-op Team Deathmatch" tile:

 

[Amidatelion]

Is this only complete-able through BotsTDM or is Bot Destruction also viable?

Because I love me some 25 rounds of hell.

[Dawn_of_Ash]

Of course you would pull this out when I begin to download Tera.

 

Thanks devs. XD

 

Edit: Only got 27GB to go. Woopie!

Edited by Dawn_of_Ash, 11 September 2015 - 05:57 PM.

[capnjosh]

We're just looking for bot kills, so it will be fine in the CoOp Bot Challenge mode.

[kvazarsky]

Is there any way to track kill count in game?

[Sorroritas]

Is there any way to track kill count in game?

 

There are service awards which require bot kills to achieve.

If you take a note how high the number under Service Awards -> Game Modes -> Co-Op TDM in the TDM Bot Eliminator/Destroyer/Slayer bracket is you can easily check it. So if it's 200 you need 300/500/700 by monday.

 

The only problem with this is that Service Awards are seperated by game mode. So if you go into a Co-Op Bot Destruction game there's no table for bot kills and I am not sure if Co-Op BD bots count into the TDM Bot Eliminator/Destroyer/Slayer award since it is for TDM and BD doesn't have any bot kill counters (only drones). (Though I assume the Boss Eliminator/Destroyer/Slayer counts as bot mechs too)

 

Hope this helps

 

Edit: wording

Edited by Sorroritas, 11 September 2015 - 06:25 PM.

[Dawn_of_Ash]

While my first post was a bit of a joke and an attempt at me being funny (what I fail, right?), I do want to tackle this topic a bit more seriously and put in my opinion on this event.

 

Great work devs. I truly think you did a right with this event by promoting the bot gamemodes via the events. Many new players don't notice it and now I feel there is a bit of an incentive for newer players to play the mode and not get completely wrecked by people - if they'd be smurfs or just normal teams. As well all may know, this game is extremely fun when things are going in your favour and extremely frustrating when they're not. I feel that Bot gamemodes is a good balance of this and could go a long way in keeping people to stay.

 

However.

 

I do have a few issues with the current bot gamemodes and this even, with an emphasis on Bot TDM. The gamemode doesn't pay enough. Right now, playing Bot TDM is not very encouraging due to the reduced amount of HC it gives players. And yes, I can understand that you want to promote PvP, I get it. But this little problem is causing people to leave before they can really feel the fun of it. I'd suggest giving the current HC amount, or maybe a bit less, to players on level 20 or over and give the standard amount you get in a PvP game to those under level 20 when going against bots.

 

My second problem is about the event. 2 days to get 500 kills seems a bit of a stretch to me. I know it's possible, and that some people are going to be doing it, but it seems like a very big grind. And with Bots TDM, I average around 10 kills before my team gets to the score limit. 500/10 = 50. I am not doing 50 games in 2 days, I'm sorry - I've got priories and other games which have less of a grind to play...but mostly the priorities. I would suggest lengthening the event time to a week-long event rather than a weekend event. I feel that it would do wonders for people. Either that, or you could reduce the required amount of kills. As for Bot Destruction - possible, but not very famous around newbies - which is what I feel is your target audience.

 

Thirdly, the kill counter as was mentioned before. Please consider it for future events.

Edited by Dawn_of_Ash, 11 September 2015 - 07:03 PM.

[JackVandal]

While my first post was a bit of a joke and an attempt at me being funny (what I fail, right?), I do want to tackle this topic a bit more seriously and put in my opinion on this event.

 

Great work devs. I truly think you did a right with this event by promoting the bot gamemodes via the events. Many new players don't notice it and now I feel there is a bit of an incentive for newer players to play the mode and not get completely wrecked by people - if they'd be smurfs or just normal teams. As well all may know, this game is extremely fun when things are going in your favour and extremely frustrating when they're not. I feel that Bot gamemodes is a good balance of this and could go a long way in keeping people to stay.

 

However.

 

I do have a few issues with the current bot gamemodes and this even, with an emphasis on Bot TDM. The gamemode doesn't pay enough. Right now, playing Bot TDM is not very encouraging due to the reduced amount of HC it gives players. And yes, I can understand that you want to promote PvP, I get it. But this little problem is causing people to leave before they can really feel the fun of it. I'd suggest giving the current HC amount, or maybe a bit less, to players on level 20 or over and give the standard amount you get in a PvP game to those under level 20 when going against bots.

 

My second problem is about the event. 2 days to get 500 kills seems a bit of a stretch to me. I know it's possible, and that some people are going to be doing it, but it seems like a very big grind. And with Bots TDM, I average around 10 kills before my team gets to the score limit. 500/10 = 50. I am not doing 50 games in 2 days, I'm sorry - I've got priories and other games which have less of a grind to play...but mostly the priorities. I would suggest lengthening the event time to a week-long event rather than a weekend event. I feel that it would do wonders for people. Either that, or you could reduce the required amount of kills. As for Bot Destruction - possible, but not very famous around newbies - which is what I feel is your target audience.

 

Thirdly, the kill counter as was mentioned before. Please consider it for future events.

Well, in one match of the Co-op Bots, with papa incini i got at least 168 bot kills, not counting the little drones, so, its not super impossible, on a related note, i do notice lots of new players try to Co-op wave mode very early on, not sure why, but an interesting observation i think.

[capnjosh]

I agree the kill counter would be a nice touch.  We're looking at how that could be done.

[Dreamlocke]

I think the event is a great idea. Also, not everyone needs to get to 500 kills to feel happy. Many will enjoy getting a new badge for killing 200 bots, or 300. Between that and having Friday evening, Saturday, and Sunday to kill bots, I believe this is an entirely reasonable scale of reward.

 

I would suggest having (in the future) a scale of reward which stretchs from easy, to tough, all the way to insanely difficult. Some players like an extreme challenge. For instance, a challenge like this which also has a reward at 1000 bot kills. Maybe it's a badge which simply has an explosion on it. Or a red blood/oil drenched skin for the mech.

 

Thanks for listening!

Dreamlocke

[Dawn_of_Ash]

Another suggestion would be community events where the entire Hawken community works toward a reward that rewards everyone. Like something like "if everyone can rock up 1000/2000 kills within the weekend you get *insert tier 1 reward here* and if we get 4000 you get *tier 2 reward*". I would also suggest doing this when you release your first update, devs.

[kaiserschmarrn_]

Offline bots match?

[EM1O]

this is my Lurk. you shall pay.

bwoohahahahahhah

[claisolais]

Kill counts? a paper will do.

It takes me 4 hours non-stopping coop TDM to get another 500 bot heads. Geez

[MomOw]

Thank you so much for fixing the coop TDM servers ! I can start alone with good bots !

[nepacaka]

i have a question.
when you kill small-drones in coop Bot Destruction (CoBD) it is counted?
or i should kill only J1-B4B4 in coop TDM?

damn, this fuzzy bunny babaji always rekt me....

Spoiler

xD

[kaiserschmarrn_]

Seriously though how come the devs double post every time?

[Meraple]

Seriously though how come the devs double post every time?

One in General Discussion and one in Announcements.

[kvazarsky]

Well, gotta count it the old way. :P

 

Btw. Maybe next week we'll get 'win x MA/Siege games'? Anyway, weekend events are great idea, ty new devs. ;)

[Hyginos]

We're just looking for bot kills, so it will be fine in the CoOp Bot Challenge mode.

 

Just to be clear, are we just tracking AI mech kills in any mode, or do those drones count as well?

[EM1O]

on the other hand....in a more serious moment:

i played in a range of a low 6 to high of ~15 kills per bots-tdm last night, and did about 15 games. so that's about 150 kills for one night. but then, i have no job, i'm retired, and can sit and get rekt and play hawken whenever i want. and do. if someone has responsibilities such as children, work, business obligations, a spouse that wants attention, etc, a couple hours now and then might be the best one could do.

500 kills? i'm not even going to try. that's ridiculous, and indicates someone who has very high mmr/skill, and very low goals, or has some pretty severe mental issues. bots are a hoot, but not THAT fun. besides, i have badges i'm happy with (i haven't changed my avatar for years, here), i have oodles of HC i don't know what to do with, so this is all moot for me.

what i would like to see, is a new mech. or map. or weapons. fatter armor. higher TTK. more violent weapon power. back this game off from what keeps popping up in the different forums about it being a twitch shooter CoD knock-off with mechs.

please?

[nepacaka]

500 kills? i'm not even going to try. that's ridiculous

 

this is why i asked about CoBD. probably, made 500 kills in CoBD it is about 2-3 game. even if it about 4-5 games, it is not scary.

also, some matematics.
~10 kills in bot-TDM
every bot-TDM about 5 min. (because bots sux)
50 matches * 10 kills = 500 kills
50 * 5min = 250 min (maybe 300, if added time beetwen matches)
300 / 60 = 5 hrs of play.
so, you need about 5-10 hours, if you kill about 8-10 bots in one game.

 

probably, the best way to do it - use assault, cuz it fine to kill a lot of bots in fast, non-stop manner.

Edited by nepacaka, 12 September 2015 - 12:25 PM.

[WmMoneyFrmMissouri]

500 kills easy, you're doing it wrong. You can get 80-100 kills each round of co op bot destruction. This is a great event, mega fun. If everyone put half their energy from moaning into having fun with the game they'd be having a lot better time.

[HoneyBoomBoom]

I agree the kill counter would be a nice touch.  We're looking at how that could be done.

 

Well, there's the "Event" category under "Service Awards"... maybe that could be put to good use!

[EM1O]

i'm not that good, even with bots (ask anyone in TDM or who was in TAW). i suck, so 10 kills every match would be nice, and realistically, i'm not going to get better. so as far as effort, it's easier to moan and kvetch instead. much more productive.

:)

[claisolais]

Just to be clear, are we just tracking AI mech kills in any mode, or do those drones count as well?

 First: Donno why ppl not seeing this but wth --- Kill bots in either of the 2 CoOp Bot game modes. 

 

 And drones, I don't think they count, internals do work with bot k/a, but not drones.

 Beside, who will go to coop TDM if they can simply count stupid drones in CoBD?

[WmMoneyFrmMissouri]

Is it too early to say the daily on co-op bot destruction should be increased significantly? Damn, it takes a long time to get through 25 levels. You can do a lot of damage fast in this mode. Lots of money shots that round, gotta be close to that 500... I wants them portraits !! Muahaha

 

 

Of special note is the weakness in the lower right..... for shame

Edited by WmMoneyFrmMissouri, 12 September 2015 - 11:39 PM.

[Kuroken]

I wonder if bot team kills by turning on FF(x50 of course)  in Co-Op Bot TDM would count

[nepacaka]

i play one CoBD and made 193 kills in one match, it is not hard, but extremely boooooooooooored. :D

Edited by nepacaka, 13 September 2015 - 04:27 AM.

[Siamenis]

On a not-so-serious-side-note, I renamed this event to The Weekend of Kill Steals :P

[nepacaka]

i'm kill-steal 560 bots (with drones), and 360 (only walking). i did it? or not?
spent 2 hrs, not bad :C

Edited by nepacaka, 13 September 2015 - 07:01 AM.

[Kindos7]

This challenge is like a quest I would expect from an MMORPG (USM999 would be proud), but Hawken is an FPS.

This is not fun, but just a grind. This is not hard, just very time consuming.

Additionally, those who are not interested on the challenge are now going to have an even harder time finding a match, since a part of the alredy low population are now slaughtering bots.

 

The idea of challenges is good, but the challenges we've had so far are not (the first being too easy and this one being too grindy).

I'd look for harder and more interesting challenges. Something as simple as "Get 1 crushing kill", is more interesting than grinding, can be achieved on any mode and won't affect those who simply don't care (they'll just have more people trying to step on them). If that is too easy, simply increase the amount of crushing kills needed.

[nepacaka]

the first being too easy and this one being too grindy

 

actually, reward should not be get easily. or it is just a gift, not reward. but i preffer events with ordinary matches, than with bots.

 

Something as simple as "Get 1 crushing kill"

 

- deal 10k damage in one fight
- be a MVP in fight
- make a double kill while you in air
- defend all 3 silo in MA 2-3 minutes in a row.
- made a triple kill

- be a king-of-assist
etc.
nice.

Edited by nepacaka, 13 September 2015 - 08:20 AM.

[xiphos27]

Alright, i've definelty got more than 500 and i've still yet to get the rewards. will all of the emblems be released on monday or should i of recieved them already. If i was supose to get them already, then i think something is bugged.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            -Xiphos27 (Crushinator)

[Amidatelion]

Alright, i've definelty got more than 500 and i've still yet to get the rewards. will all of the emblems be released on monday or should i of recieved them already. If i was supose to get them already, then i think something is bugged.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            -Xiphos27 (Crushinator)

 

 

 

The number of bots you kill by Monday, September 14th at 17:00 UTC will reward different emblems (to be awarded by Thursday):

[MomOw]

the 100 ~ 500 values seems a bit high for coop TDM, as you get 10 ~ 15 kills per matches. Was it really intended to like playing 6~8 hours of Coop TDM to get the final reward ?

I don't know if drones in coop were taken into account an I don't know how many drone you may expect to kill per hours.

 

Then, I think that those events should be limited to server close to your MMR, stomping bots in n00b server to half the duration of grind ain't fun.

 

I love events and i really enjoy that this game is not ded, so next time could you add some more explaination (i.e. drones / bots ?) and limit the challenges to "2~3 stars" servers ?

 

P.S.: Is it possible to have a "I've been babajied by Telia routers" ? as I couldn't play on saturday

Edited by MomOw, 13 September 2015 - 09:15 PM.

[crockrocket]

Got my 300 and called it quits. If only it wasn't my first day at a new job tomorrow...

[Reippers]

I will say the same as said in another topic:

I do not know how was the response on the servers of you more in South America have never seen people play in BOTH the team this event.

I wanted much, much more even if it Were in TDM, Siege, MA, most unfortunately here only knows how to play TDM and yet without teamwork, is tragic.

Edited by Reippers, 14 September 2015 - 11:43 AM.

[CounterlogicMan]

I hope one of the first things patched into the client, when that build stuff is sorted out, is quest tracking in a panel on the main menu. A la heroes of the storm. Would make these events a lot more stream lined from a player perspective. Could maybe even stream line the reward delivery.

 

 

One thing these events reminds me of is Hawken's lack of compelling dailies. Something pretty much every good f2p has.

Edited by CounterlogicMan, 14 September 2015 - 10:25 AM.

[nepacaka]

kill J1-B4B4 will be a noice event, cuz he always rekt me... :D