187 replies to this topic

[Hyginos]

Here, just take this it's most of bunker

 

I can't be the only one who has this picture:

[Amidatelion]

• If the B3-AR that is now supposedly mounted on the Vanguard is bears any resemblance to any of the 3 incin weapons that are currently in the game, the mech will have to either deal with having almost no dps for the first half of a fight or will have to try its best not to overheat while keeping the gun spun up. It is possible that the gun has been adjusted to fit better, but putting it on the Vanguard seems to show an ignorance of the fundamental design purpose of the B3-AR series: they are meant to go with a weapon that vents some heat when fired.

And if it has been re-worked to be viable on the vanguard, something that is seem untrue given gameplay videos, the Incinerator (if it is actually in the game) will have its secondary nerfed. Which, sure, we've been calling on for a while, but ffs at least try to address the issue directly.

 

• Return of the gren turret. I invite anyone at RLD to go watch some of the hours upon hours of competitive/high level hawken play and keep track of the percentage of time players use the turret mode that is available to them. You will find that voluntarily giving up side dodge is simply not worth it against players with more than a few hours in the game.

Not sure if they would really understand without being put in that position. Plenties of noobs seem to think the afforded armour buff is worth the loss of maneuverability and rationalize their losses in that position with "it would have happened anyways."

 

• Double Rev-GL? Uptown is going to be unpleasant. It seems a bit spammy and boring to have two identical weapons like that but it isn't inherently unbalanced.

Sure it is, in the other direction. There's literally no reason to do this as the only result or intention would be MOAR GRENADES, which results in a 6 second overheat time.

[DeeRax]

How can you have the GRENADIER without the GRENADE LAUNCHER?

[DemitronPrime]

as many of you know....

 

for all my scrubbish faults, Vulcan Gren is my baby... my love my fat zerk...

 

I am officially terrified of what reloaded is going to do to the parts etc i have already baught, we all saw that only SS chassis showed on the video customization.... 

 

whats going to happen to the stuff we have already paid for etc... we were promised we wouldnt lose things but...

 

they also promised pc would be their priority and a list....

 

of many empty promises...

 

i dare ask, who can we trust?

 

Edited by -TDM- Demitron-Prime, 16 June 2016 - 07:18 AM.

[DeeRax]

And I love my Fatfiltrator...

[Durandal1707]

 

welp... seems like reloaded btfo your plans to s_hit on newbies.

 

I really don't mind that much if I have to relearn how to play old and new mechs, as I was getting bored of the same tactics and tricks.

 

Spoiler

And I really hope they completely destroy scout s_hitters.

 

...however I'm getting a little nervous about my cosmetic purchases, although it would be great if I can buy the cupcake chassis and the flame thrusters :3

[TheButtSatisfier]

And I really hope they completely destroy scout s_hitters

 

"Unlike lots of other people, I don't feel like learning how to counter scouts, so hopefully the devs will fix my problem for me"

[DeeRax]

"Unlike lots of other people, I don't feel like learning how to counter scouts, so hopefully the devs will fix my problem for me"

I feel like this is exactly the kind of crap RLD used to guide their development process, from what we've seen.

[crockrocket]

I can't be the only one who has this picture:

Pretty sure I've never seen that

 

EDIT: also that's a shitty fuzzy bunnyng map

Edited by (TDM)crockrocket, 16 June 2016 - 08:12 AM.

[Amidatelion]

I feel like this is exactly the kind of crap RLD used to guide their development process, from what we've seen.

 

And fuzzy bunny threads like this one's become.

[Durandal1707]

Please choose one

 

"I just want to see the rage and tears of smurfs and "pros" alike."

 

How about this one?

[DeeRax]

"I like to play an utterly broken mech"

Says the Incinerator main.



But I digress.

[Amidatelion]

"I just want to see the rage and tears of smurfs and "pros" alike."

 

How about this one?

 

You realize that scout is like, one of the least scary of things to face a top-tier player in, right?

 

Heaven forbid you ever run into hestoned in a gren.

[crockrocket]

"I like to play an utterly broken mech"

 

 

Oh but you do http://hawken.heroku...er/Durandal1707

 

 

Your top 2 are both broken in thier own ways

[TheButtSatisfier]

"I just want to see the rage and tears of smurfs and "pros" alike."

 

How about this one?

 

You're choosing the wrong mech if you want that to happen.

 

You aren't very good at this, are you?

Edited by TheButtSatisfier, 16 June 2016 - 08:20 AM.

[Durandal1707]

Says the Incinerator main.



But I digress.

 How many Incinerators smurfs have you seen out there... how many incinerators mains have you seen?.

 

now... how many scouts mains and smurfs are out there...?

 

 

Oh but you do http://hawken.heroku...er/Durandal1707

 

 

Your top 2 are both broken in thier own ways

 

Yes one is an under powered piece of crap (rocketter) which I don't play anymore and the other is an easily killable fat with a fuel tank the size of an soda can.

Edited by Durandal1707, 16 June 2016 - 08:30 AM.

[Badtings]

Pity. Looks a lot like they've added nothing. 

 

Such an amazing game.

 

Been a fun ride tho. 

[DeeRax]

 

Yes one is an under powered piece of crap (rocketter) which I don't play anymore and the other is one of the best-stated c-classes in the game with a fuel tank the size of an soda can and infinite pewpew giant fireballs fuzzy bunny an entire game mechanic.

Edited by (TDM) DeeRax, 16 June 2016 - 08:34 AM.

[Sylhiri]

And fuzzy bunny threads like this one's become.

 

That mean we'll get 90% of the new mechs to be C class?

 

Here's a scary thought, what if the only way you could get weapons permanently was to buy them with "meteor" credits and you needed to "rent" weapons, mechs, items with hawken credits on a daily, weekly or monthly basis. Given how they are related to K2 Network it's not impossible, lol.  

[OdinTheWise]

if you think think the scout is OP, just fight me in my brawler. i have literally out fatted every one here at least once 

[DeeRax]

Here's a scary thought, what if the only way you could get weapons permanently was to buy them with "meteor" credits and you needed to "rent" weapons, mechs, items with hawken credits on a daily, weekly or monthly basis. Given how they are related to K2 Network it's not impossible, lol.  

Sounds about right.

[Durandal1707]

 

 

Yes one is an under powered piece of crap (rocketter) which I don't play anymore and the other is one of the best-stated c-classes in the game with a fuel tank the size of an soda can and infinite pewpew giant fireballs fuzzy bunny an entire game mechanic.

 

 

beautiful, isn't it? That's why everyone plays it.

Edited by Durandal1707, 16 June 2016 - 08:40 AM.

[Amidatelion]

I think the problem here is that scrubadubmcgee has literally never been in a situation where a top-tier player throws real fat around and can't comprehend that there are worse things than being stung to death by something that gets two-shotted by a Raider. 

 

Anyways, back to whining about devs not listening.

[DeeRax]

beautiful, isn't it? That's why everyone plays it.

 
it's cool we've come to an agreement.

[HugeGuts]

I miss Ascension.

[Nept]

Edited by Nept: Ultra Lord of the God-Kings, 16 June 2016 - 09:36 AM.

[OdinTheWise]

I miss Ascension.

[Peregrim]

I mean.. I knew this was a beta, but I'd be lying if I said I was optimistic about these changes given what I've seen so far.

[Flifang]

The gameplay we saw was just a copy and paste of the current Co-op TDM. We can't assume that this confirms mechs will get other weapons.

All I can ask is

 

Where is our fuzzy bunnyng content going?!

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

 

And I really hope they completely destroy scout s_hitters.

 

 

 

 

Do you have ANY idea how much I enjoy blowing you up?

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

So, I just read this thread.

 

I... remain... hopeful.  Yes, that's it: hopeful.

[Shade__]

The gameplay we saw was just a copy and paste of the current Co-op TDM. We can't assume that this confirms mechs will get other weapons.

All I can ask is

 

Where is our fuzzy bunnyng content going?!

Our content is going right to hell..... How else can we get Lucifer to playtest it?

[Durandal1707]

Do you have ANY idea how much I enjoy blowing you up?

and you might be?... implying that I care for whatever the fuzzy bunny you enjoy.

[Silverfire]

and you might be?... implying that I care for whatever the fuzzy bunny you enjoy.

 

I've seen you play.  You do fine against scouts, so idk why you're complaining so much

 

and stop hijacking my thread

[Durandal1707]

I've seen you play.  You do fine against scouts, so idk why you're complaining so much

 

and stop hijacking my thread

 lol... ok sorry, I just like to s*hitpost about smurfs and scouts every now and then. I'll stop with the cat fight.

 

But back to the matter at hand.

 

I'm not liking what I'm seeing here "30 mechs at launch" that sounds to me like 3 assaults with different weapons as the website doesn't show any alternative for the primaries. I guess they are just going to put a mech with a fix load-out, maybe some different parts for the arms and/or legs.

 

Also did they test this new mechs things? when? who?

 

They have should ask the community or maybe run some sort of testing programs with experienced players before coming out with this, as for now "30 mechs at launch and more to come" just sounds like a cheap hook for new players. Some one on you tube resumed the trailer very well as a "cheap mobile game trailer"

Edited by Durandal1707, 16 June 2016 - 12:35 PM.

[StubbornPuppet]

I don't even know what to make of that right now.

 

Seems obvious to me that a few mechs have been removed from the game (ie. Incinerator, G2 Assault, G2 Raider) and that things like the B3-4R (which I think is just a single weapon now, not three variations) have been reworked to provide a less mech specific experience.  And the C-RT replaces the original Assault (in configuration) and the Assault is now the Assault Chassis but with the G2 Assault config.

 

And I'm seeing 15 mechs, with 2 variations of each.  Probably what the "Mech Tree" is about - you play through upgrading version 1, and that unlocks version 2.  That's 30 mechs.

 

And, it all seems like a terrible mistake to me.  I'll try to stay 'upbeat' and imagine that there's some method behind the madness, a method that isn't both poorly devised and engineered to increase the profits of F2P/P2W.

 

EDIT:  After a bit more time going through all the updates to the main site, I see lots of unfinished pages and oversights.  I see plenty of text that still refers to "Meteor Credits"... and talk of the old style of mech progression.  And I see pictures of the Cupcake listed as the Vanguard.

Edited by StubbornPuppet, 16 June 2016 - 01:50 PM.

[Sylhiri]

I'll try to stay 'upbeat' and imagine that there's some method behind the madness, a method that isn't both poorly devised and engineered to increase the profits of F2P/P2W.

 

[Sokram]

That stuff is fuzzed up.

 

Like....I cant even tell if that is good or bad.

[Charcoal]

Hmmm, I thought current Gren was good as-is

 

I don't see the need to change.

 

I could imagine a G2 Gren with double GLs, but not Rev GLs

 

<edit> Ok, no regular GL on the Gren?

It already feels like I'm the only one who uses the current Gren sometimes :(

Edited by Charcoal, 16 June 2016 - 10:51 PM.

[TheFrostnessMonster]

Honestly, the only way we can tell for real if the game is unbalanced now is to actually play the new version in its entirety.  My hopes for glory as of right now are this  big,  but hopefully, all of the doom-and-gloom that is happening is wrong.

 

Hopefully.

 

Maybe....

Edited by TheFrostnessMonster, 16 June 2016 - 04:51 PM.