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[DallasCreeper]

I feel like RLD has gotten us our birthday gift, but can't tell us what it is until our birthday, when they can give us the gift.

PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE I keep telling my self.

Reloaded, i swear, this better be good.

Also, we don't know when out birthday is.

Edited by (TDM) DallasCreeper, 23 May 2016 - 09:31 AM.

[6ixxer]

Is "soon" in time for the Steam Summer sale?

My reliable source said likely not.

[CrimsonKaim]

New forum rule: Members of the team may not use the word "soon" anymore as it is not accurate enough.

Exception: Off-Tooic. :)

[bacon_avenger]

Maybe it'll be full mech hat support along with steam marketplace integration so that you can buy and equip user generated hats for your mech! Or air horns for mechs!

Edited by bacon_avenger, 24 May 2016 - 12:47 AM.

[6ixxer]

wooo airhorns.

I want a little dancing mech deployable. Like deploying a holo, but an actual little model mech that plays music and dances.
Explodes when you step on it for 50 damage.

*Bonus mode*, press deploy button again to make it kamikaze charge at an enemy mech then explode?
A whole team sends 6 kamikaze mechs into a chokepoint. Sounds like fun.

Edited by 6ixxer, 24 May 2016 - 12:57 AM.

[dorobo]

I give you a present of best gif of the week.

 

[Bergwein]

air horns for mechs!

 

 

Spoiler

 

 

wooo airhorns.

 

I think it is now clear what the community wants. Go ahead, Reloaded.

[ATX22]

Maybe it'll be full mech hat support along with steam marketplace integration so that you can buy and equip user generated hats for your mech! Or air horns for mechs!

All it needs is a top hat and monocle and I'd pay some $$ for that.

Existing hat works too. :p

Edited by ATX22, 24 May 2016 - 05:20 AM.

[hoghead]

Josh and I are both around and so is the rest of the team.  

 

[DeeRax]

Just give us that fuzzy bunnyn b-class with the GL we all know exists, and we'll be content for another 2 years.
Oh and air horns.

[angryhampster]

Do not let your hearts be worried, my children.  Through prayer, perseverance, and kindness; they will respond to us one day.

 

Keep a hopeful heart and enjoy the beautiful day.

[ArchMech]

you guys can stop now, overwatch is out.

 

Spoiler

thats it, its over for you, period.

[crockrocket]

you guys can stop now, overwatch is out.

 

Spoiler

thats it, its over for you, period.

 

Yeah but I would have to buy that

[DallasCreeper]

you guys can stop now, overwatch is out.

 

Spoiler

thats it, its over for you, period.

But I have to spend money! I need that for my mech customization!

[Darktim300]

I'm sure the current NDA they signed is keeping them from saying anything legally until a specific disclosure event takes place such as 'E3' for example. This is usually frowned upon in any industry that has them in place. 

[OdinTheWise]

I'm sure the current NDA they signed is keeping them from saying anything legally until a specific disclosure event takes place such as 'E3' for example. This is usually frowned upon in any industry that has them in place. 

that is why they shouldnt be made in the first place

[ATX22]

that is why they shouldnt be made in the first place

 

Has anyone over at Reloaded even confirmed that there is indeed an NDA?  I can only wonder what's happening if Reloaded were to actually be under some catch-all NDA that kept them from saying ANYTHING about Hawken.

[PsychedelicGrass]

In another thread I think tiggs said "we can't talk about anythhing right now"


More or less confirms it

[ATX22]

In another thread I think tiggs said "we can't talk about anythhing right now"


More or less confirms it

 

That doesn't exactly give you a reason why.  So, basically, rumor central all over again.  NDA a possibility?  Sure.  But wouldn't they just outright say they're under a NDA and leave it at that?

 

EDIT: And again, what scenario would have to be playing out for Reloaded to be under a catch-all NDA that prevents them from saying ANYTHING about Hawken?

Edited by ATX22, 24 May 2016 - 09:21 PM.

[HorseHeadProphet]

Second Dark Age is coming, this is like when you know your parents are about to get divorced but they keep telling the kids "Everything's fine."

 

Face facts and be happy with what we have, while we have it. Someone made a great point about the amount of work needed to get money out of this game. Where would that money come from? The existing 200-person strong player base? No. Where then? A new larger player base? Where are they coming from exactly, from what game are you going to steal those new players? 

 

I can't help but think that if I brought people in to take over a game, and after 2 years, all that the team I had on it had to show was barely keeping the game running and coming out with some charts and promises, I'd fire the lot of them. Unless that was just what they were supposed to be doing. RLD has to have money coming in from somewhere, but it sure ain't this game. 

 

They were talking about getting investors, artists, and partners years ago. Do you think that gets easier or harder, the older a game gets?

 

"NO BUT THE NDA AGREEMENT! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND DA INDUSTRY, YOU SOUND STOOPIT"

 

I know about reality though. I know the difference between producing results and shining people on. Any NDA is probably referring to the "devs" current activity- such as it is - not what is supposedly coming down the line. 

 

What's more likely? After 2 years+ of next to nothing, a huge Hawken re-launch, new maps, mechs, lore, all kinds of hot new content? And an influx of enthusiastic new players? The time for that was over a year ago. If it was going to happen it would have happened already. I mean, let's be real.

 

Or, the game dying a sad, quiet death, as the community eats itself, and the existing player pool moves to other games. I'm already playing the game less myself, and I love Hawken. It's basically the only game I even play anymore.

 

It really stinks. I know I sound super jaded and I'm sorry for that. I am very grateful that the game was saved, and that we can still play it. I just can't pretend Christmas is coming anymore.

Edited by HorseHeadProphet, 25 May 2016 - 03:15 AM.

[StubbornPuppet]

Hawken coming to Xbox One IS a really big deal and very exciting news.  Just because it does nothing for the people here in the legacy PC version doesn't mean that the dev team isn't very excited about it.

[coldform]

The problem with NDAS is that you can't even say "I signed an NDA."

[nepacaka]

hawken has been owned by RLD for little over a year now and we have almost zero evidence of progress for the game. 

... they buff MG-turells.

[ATX22]

The problem with NDAS is that you can't even say "I signed an NDA."

 

That's if the NDA itself is listed among the things you can't disclose.  

[TheButtSatisfier]

If I worked at Reloaded, I would hold an office pool for every time an official comment is posted on the Hawken community forums. We'd be betting how many responses fall into a particular category within the first 96 hours after the post. Off the top of my head I'd go with categories like (1) NDAs, (2) "Soon", (3) Hawken is dead / dying, and (4) someone trying to convince everyone to go play a different game.

 

Fortunately, there aren't many replies that don't fall in one of those categories, so it should be an easy pool to set up.

[Hyginos]

If I worked at Reloaded...

 

That would increase the number of people in the hawken office roughly 50%.

 

Maybe not though. With all these NDAs we can never really know. Now that Hawken is dead (killed by clash of clans promod, a way better game that everyone should play) maybe they'll return the IP to creditors soon�.

[hellc9943]

Fortunately, there aren't many replies that don't fall in one of those categories, so it should be an easy pool to set up.

With the amount of official comments it's also easy to supervise.

[CrimsonKaim]

Who is actually the boss of Tiggs amd Josh? Like who is telling them when or when not to talk about stuff?

[dorobo]

Who is actually the boss of Tiggs amd Josh? Like who is telling them when or when not to talk about stuff?

 

Dude that paid for hawken?

 

Edited by dorobo, 25 May 2016 - 10:23 PM.

[Texhnolyzing]

So in the long run, if the game did die off, would there be any way to say... purchase the game code or some of the servers or open source it maybe xD?

[dorobo]

I've sone on reddit that their UI programmer that came from ADH to reloaded has passed away recently. Cut it out guys...

[TangledMantis]

The problem with NDAS is that you can't even say "I signed an NDA."

 

We need an 'anonymous inside source' to feed us information... or maybe one of the dev teams can speak to us in code? 

[Hyginos]

So in the long run, if the game did die off, would there be any way to say... purchase the game code or some of the servers or open source it maybe xD?

 

Of course. That's why reloaded was able to take up development.

 

It's just that no one in their right mind would buy Hawken unless they either had enough liquid capitol to prop it up, or intended to buy it just to keep in the stable with minimal effort.

 

Now which do you think Reloaded is?

[crockrocket]

That would increase the number of people in the hawken office roughly 50%.

 

Maybe not. We had confirmation on the sub that one of the old devs had been hired at RL prior to his death (rest in peace).

 

So Reloaded has done SOME amount of hiring. 

[MomOw]

[6ixxer]

That's if the NDA itself is listed among the things you can't disclose.

When you're in fight club, you're not allowed to talk about fight club.
...its the first rule dude.

[talon70]

I cant really figure out the silence and don't buy non-disclosure agreements. Lets say there is a partnership with nvidia or microsoft ect. Why would either side say "we are so excited about the future of this, don't say anything to anyone". In the case of this game why would you, the game's owners, want anything other than to build hype and keep interest alive? Unless one side is hiding something or embarrassed of the other an nda makes no sense at this time. I had come to the conclusion this game was just a write off for someone or maybe a cog in some corporate dealings to provide data for charts for some presentation to sell something else. I am just confused.

 

I was really excited at first with all the talk of being transparent but the charts stopped pretty quick. At some point things reached a solid wall, deja vu. Not even a kiss goodbye. It just makes no sense because here i$ your money, right here in my wallet. I want to give it to you and your job i$ really to get it from me.

[DeeRax]

I imagine if there actually is a NDA, then Reloaded is prolly just in the process of selling the game to someone else..

(I know there are a lot of reasons that wouldn't make sense, but, hey... Most of this bull doesn't make any sense).

Edited by (TDM) DeeRax, 26 May 2016 - 03:02 PM.

[ATX22]

When you're in fight club, you're not allowed to talk about fight club.
...its the first rule dude.

 

... sure thing buddy.  NDAs are just like fight club... absolutely.     

[6ixxer]

We need an 'anonymous inside source' to feed us information... or maybe one of the dev teams can speak to us in code?

I can confirm that Josh cannot deny that he is under NDA.

He could only deny that he was under an NDA if he was not under and NDA.
The canary principle says that you should ask if he ISN'T under NDA, because then he isn't talking about the NDA, he'd be confirming he is under one by not being able to confirm that he is NOT under one.

Then again it looks like he has gone with the 'if we don't talk, we don't have to deny it either' tactic.
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