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#1 hawkenus

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Posted August 02 2014 - 02:27 AM

How about releasing some SDK, so users can help you guys in creating maps, weapons, mechs, internals, items etc. as models, so you can easily choose what to select and not waste your time on this too much. As I see many of forum users are great skilled in 2/3D models and in programming.
Maybe some users and devs competition, and the winner model will be attached to game every month or sth like this.

In other way make us able to help you to speed up development process and make HAWKEN better!

Edited by hawkenus, August 02 2014 - 02:28 AM.

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#2 FiveK

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Posted August 02 2014 - 02:30 AM

I doubt it will create quality maps in most case. Rather not play than play bad maps.

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Posted August 02 2014 - 02:40 AM

But 1 of 100 or 1000 map can be a quality map. Devs can always change and modification map. It will be speedier than creating a new map from the fresh start. if no map will be qulity map, no one will be attached simple as that. But make us make the change and opportunity for it.
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Posted August 02 2014 - 02:45 AM

Giving the community the ability to create content for Hawken (for example via the Steam workshop) was suggested A LOT already. That's not something that's going to happen anytime soon if ever. The devs already stated numerous times that they like the general idea but it's not something that they will focus on.

#5 Houruck

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Posted August 02 2014 - 03:06 AM

View PostReEvolve, on August 02 2014 - 02:45 AM, said:

The devs already stated numerous times that they like the general idea...
Could you quote this for me_ I do not remember it.

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Posted August 02 2014 - 03:38 AM

View PostHouruck, on August 02 2014 - 03:06 AM, said:

View PostReEvolve, on August 02 2014 - 02:45 AM, said:

The devs already stated numerous times that they like the general idea...
Could you quote this for me_ I do not remember it.
I recall something about it, but it was a fairly off-hand remark I believe. Aside from that it's been many, many, many months since then. It would be hard to find, especially not remembering which dev said it.

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#7 SoldierHobbes11

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Posted August 02 2014 - 09:03 PM

All I know is that it cost valve a lot of money to put that kind of a system in place for TF2, and I'm not sure if Adhesive has the dough to do it. The money was mostly used for sorting out all the legal complexities. Or so I was told. I've suggested this plenty of times and was told what I'm telling you now.

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#8 BIsmuthZornisse

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Posted August 03 2014 - 07:14 AM

how about some kind of sdk that doesn't allow direct implementation into online play, but allows you to change/add things offline for testing.
And once you have finalized your new/changed stuff, you present the new/altered file to the devs and leave it up to devs to decide to implement your files, which might possibly help avoid legal problems. Essentially, we would be able to make suggestions that are more than just words and directly showcase what we would like to see in the game.
My big list of suggestions: (Warning: Contains lots of text)
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Posted August 03 2014 - 12:26 PM

If I remember correctly someone from adh said that the steam workshop makes using player created content easier and that they were considering it, but would need to make a system that allows them to filter though the content made to decide what can and cant be used. Its not a high priority at the moment but its not something they are never considering.

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Posted August 03 2014 - 12:46 PM

View PostHouruck, on August 02 2014 - 03:06 AM, said:

View PostReEvolve, on August 02 2014 - 02:45 AM, said:

The devs already stated numerous times that they like the general idea...
Could you quote this for me_ I do not remember it.

This question has been beat to death on The Cockpit and came up at least once a week while we had Vana on there. Hughes, ZC, and Vana always echoed that it would be cool to do but would take up a ton of resources, need a lot of oversight from them, and it's just not something they have the ability to focus on right now.

Not sure why people think this sort of thing would be easy to do and it's just simply the devs going "Nah we don't want to do this" that is keeping something like this from happening...

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Posted August 03 2014 - 01:42 PM

Never said it would be easy, but I think it would totally worth it.

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#12 KejiGoto

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Posted August 03 2014 - 01:48 PM

View PostHouruck, on August 03 2014 - 01:42 PM, said:

Never said it would be easy, but I think it would totally worth it.

Didn't mean to imply you did, I meant it as a generalized comment about how often the question comes up and how people think it would be super easy to implement at this stage of Hawken's development.

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Posted August 03 2014 - 01:51 PM

It's a grand idea!  I would love to see it implemented.  However, now is not the time for that, they need to get all those terrible bugs and other things fixed before we can see stuff like that come to light.

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Posted August 03 2014 - 02:11 PM

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so users can help you guys in creating maps
like a bunker. maps with lava. maps with acid. space maps. no.

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weapons
like a swords. shields. railguns. triple-barreled miniguns. even more miniguns. artillery cannons. no.

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items
like a mini-nukes. acid-bombs. bananas grenade. no

#15 Sylhiri

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Posted August 03 2014 - 02:21 PM

"We will build a better Bunker".

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Posted August 03 2014 - 02:24 PM

ONLY IF... Hawken can no longer be sustained by it's developers then I support it being opened to the public and possibly the steam workshop but until then, it should continue to be a realization of Khang Le's original concept and Jason Hugh's realization of it.
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Posted August 03 2014 - 03:33 PM

View PostSylhiri, on August 03 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

"We will build a better Bunker".
with black jack and fine womans

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Posted August 03 2014 - 05:10 PM

View Postnepacaka, on August 03 2014 - 02:11 PM, said:

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so users can help you guys in creating maps
like a bunker. maps with lava. maps with acid. space maps. no.

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weapons
like a swords. shields. railguns. triple-barreled miniguns. even more miniguns. artillery cannons. no.

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items
like a mini-nukes. acid-bombs. bananas grenade. no
You're being quite pessimistic here, not everyone will have the wrong idea of the game (according to your view of the game), and the devs would still select what is added and what is not (tf2 plox).
Also, artillery cannon/mortar is not a bad idea in itself, but probably doesn't fit in the moods of hawken mechas (more infantry soldiers than armored artillery), and we basically already have railgunds.

Edited by Vdragon, August 03 2014 - 05:12 PM.


#19 Houruck

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Posted August 03 2014 - 09:37 PM

View PostPastorius, on August 03 2014 - 02:24 PM, said:

ONLY IF... Hawken can no longer be sustained by it's developers then I support it being opened to the public and possibly the steam workshop but until then, it should continue to be a realization of Khang Le's original concept and Jason Hugh's realization of it.
We are far from Khang Le's orginal vision, and he is no longer with us.

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Posted August 03 2014 - 10:48 PM

View Postnepacaka, on August 03 2014 - 03:33 PM, said:

View PostSylhiri, on August 03 2014 - 02:21 PM, said:

"We will build a better Bunker".
with black jack and fine womans
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