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Amid Presents: The Rocketard
#1
Posted 08 September 2015 - 05:17 PM
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#2
Posted 08 September 2015 - 05:38 PM
#3
Posted 08 September 2015 - 05:39 PM
#4
Posted 08 September 2015 - 05:39 PM
#5
Posted 08 September 2015 - 05:39 PM
This might be my favorite guide on anything ever. And I can often be found in the cockpit of a Domoff. Though, I don't usually take to the air. Is this common?
#6
Posted 08 September 2015 - 05:42 PM
ISM:
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"But Amiiiiiiid the rocketeer is good for people who gotz teh bad laggies and ping so high it might as well be on the moon." - No-one ever.
G2 and Bruiser suck more
Meat. #1. learn to aim #2. Bruiser is actually somewhat useful in comparison. and bruiser is mah boo. you don't diss mah boo.
Edited by Jason Endrago, 08 September 2015 - 05:46 PM.
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#7
Posted 08 September 2015 - 05:44 PM
"But Amiiiiiiid the rocketeer is good for people who gotz teh bad laggies and ping so high it might as well be on the moon." - No-one ever.
And a crutch is good for someone with a broken leg, but you don't see me trying to sell it as a useful shoe.
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#8
Posted 08 September 2015 - 05:44 PM
Come on Amid tell us how you really feel! I read the whole thing.
Edited by hoghead, 08 September 2015 - 05:46 PM.
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#9
Posted 08 September 2015 - 06:09 PM
"Worst Shotgun" made me actually laugh, like out loud.
Did I say Call Me Ishmael?
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#10
Posted 08 September 2015 - 06:13 PM
Seeker DPS is (50 damage/shot)*(1.43 shots/second) = 71.
#11
Posted 08 September 2015 - 06:16 PM
don't forget that a scout actually is faster than hellfires and can literally outrun them.
"but the dead horse has been beaten so many times it's practically a pulpy mess in the barn by now."
-M1lkshake
#12
Posted 08 September 2015 - 06:32 PM
I'm guilty of this sometimes.
I have aircomp and turrets loadout.
I am fully aware that it is for pissing off the other team more than getting kills though.
#13
Posted 08 September 2015 - 06:43 PM
Meat. #1. learn to aim #2. Bruiser is actually somewhat useful in comparison. and bruiser is mah boo. you don't diss mah boo.
Babe. #1 learn to dance #2 learn to dance
#14
Posted 08 September 2015 - 07:26 PM
2. Anything with EOC Repeater has potential to be great because the EOC Repeater is a great weapon. Gtfo, stay away from my beautiful EOC rocketeer. It's fuzzing FUN. And an annoyance.
3. Amid, you fuzzing like whoore. You didn't write this to help the children, clearly.
Edited by Silverfire, 08 September 2015 - 07:46 PM.
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#15
Posted 08 September 2015 - 07:50 PM
G2 and Bruiser suck more
288 full burst, 100dps on the primary, bursts of fastest-thing-in-the-game, best looking ability by a country mile.
Most health and highest ground speed of any B class, solid heat efficiency and reliable DPS.
Access to the ez-mode sustain trinity. Stupid air speed. Useful (if difficult to use) ability.
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#16
Posted 08 September 2015 - 09:09 PM
don't forget that a scout actually is faster than hellfires and can literally outrun them.
This is in no way factual
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#17
Posted 08 September 2015 - 10:14 PM
This almost makes me want to finally get a Rocketeer.
Almost.
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#18
Posted 08 September 2015 - 10:53 PM
#19
Posted 08 September 2015 - 11:11 PM
(probably this guide is joke, but)
Actually, seeker rockets travel speed faster than any "nohitscan" rockets. But I agree with other. Eoc, heat, ability, etc.
In current balance it is good only in siege, and only with seeker. (and actually easy to play for everything)
You know my opinion about it, I say it in my previous topic about rocketeer and bruiser.
Beep should be removed.
HF and some hitscan weapons should be rebalanced.
Ability should be changed.
Because now rocketeer playable only on 1/3. It may be better...
Rocketeer just live in hitscan kingdom. he is unlucky.
Edited by nepacaka, 08 September 2015 - 11:18 PM.
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#20
Posted 08 September 2015 - 11:46 PM
That slow shotgun will do miracles in those corridors
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#21
Posted 09 September 2015 - 03:11 AM
This is in no way factual
It's that now when there are projectile speeds listed on the salty doc, its values are taken as absolute fact without any verification or doubt, or in this case where there is more information behind the speed value, which is acceleration. The HF have accel with a very low initial speed value.
I believe TOW also has acceleration, around 50m/s^2, final cap speed at 200m/s but haven't fully tested it yet. The devs should release the full weapon info rather than players having to dig into files or testing as if in real life. x)
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#23
Posted 09 September 2015 - 05:51 AM
I believe TOW also has acceleration, around 50m/s^2, final cap speed at 200m/s but haven't fully tested it yet. The devs should release the full weapon info rather than players having to dig into files or testing as if in real life. x)
as i see with my eyes, (probably i can wrong) after some distance, HF rockets start flying faster than TOW. i.e. if TOW have ~200 m/s cap speed, HF have 250 m/s. just accelerate it slower.
The devs should release the full weapon info
or even make a wiki, like in WoT. where you can see all stats, about all mechs. i mean... All.
Edited by nepacaka, 09 September 2015 - 05:52 AM.
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#24
Posted 09 September 2015 - 07:01 AM
I'm guilty of this sometimes.
I have aircomp and turrets loadout.
I am fully aware that it is for pissing off the other team more than getting kills though.
Why this should be wrong?Its your enemy team,u should piss them off!
p.s. i am guilty too
#25
Posted 09 September 2015 - 10:32 AM
This is in no way factual
Hellfire speed is 34 m/s.
Scout boost speed is 39 m/s.
So it is factual. However hellfires don't run out of fuel and the scout eventually does.
As someone who does play eoc/heat rocketeer regularly. I can confirm that there are some mechs that simply out run the hellfires to cover.
OP, the slow speed (200m/s which is same as uncharged heat cannon for reference) of the eoc is only offset by the very nice 156 damage if these conditions are met.
- you charge up (1.5s charge time) to get the 6 pucks
- you hit the enemy directly with all 6 pucks
Otherwise it is 26 damage for each puck that hits directly and 13 damage for any puck they walk over within 7s (lifetime of the puck).
TL:DR EOC rocketeer is literally the worst mech in the game. Amount of effort needed on part of the pilot to land damage/get kills far exceeds any other mech.
Edited by CounterlogicMan, 09 September 2015 - 10:32 AM.
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#26
Posted 10 September 2015 - 03:18 AM
"But Amiiiiiiid the rocketeer is good for people who gotz teh bad laggies and ping so high it might as well be on the moon." - No-one ever.
Says the person who likely doesn't get 350+ ping.
Seriously, I've said this...many times.
Rocketeer is still my best mech in the game and I wreck enough 2000 MMR people to know that it's not what Amid has said...well, not completely. I'm not on the elite level yet so that might be something to do with it. Still doesn't give you Americans any excuse to fail to a Rocketeer with over 350 ping. I've beaten a few of the elites on this forum and I've heard some even complain about Rocketeer being cheap in Test Arena because I camp on the edges of the map where no one can flank me without feeling a barrage of Seekers and a face full of Hellfires - which by the way, DOES hurt.
Still not going to argue against the fact that Rocketeers are difficult to play in high-tier play though. They're under-powered and need a buff in everything. Increase the damage by like 1.5 and we're good. :3
Also, the beeping is the weapon. Duh guys. The beeping is what makes the Hellfires so amazing! I mean seriously, I spam someone enough times with it that they cannot hear anything and then they just charge at me to make it stop. It's so hilarious. x)
Edited by Dawn_of_Ash, 10 September 2015 - 03:26 AM.
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#27
Posted 10 September 2015 - 08:30 AM
I ruin jokes.
I ruin jokes.
I ruin jokes.
I ruin jokes.
Look at all these broken records up ins.
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#28
Posted 10 September 2015 - 11:29 AM
There are no jokes when talking about EOC....only tears and sadness.
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#29
Posted 11 September 2015 - 04:44 AM
v0 = 34m (this was purely from the salty doc)
a = 90m/s^2 (would've been a little more but basically anything between 90 and 100 is a good estimation)
vmax = 130m/s (result based on time and distance traveled and using the acceleration figure)
So it seems that they accelerate quite quickly but the max speed is nothing to write home about.
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#30
Posted 11 September 2015 - 08:54 AM
Look at all these broken records up ins.
joke = trying to play on heat-rocketeer against 2100+ mmr players on assaults ;D
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#31
Posted 13 September 2015 - 03:27 PM
#32
Posted 16 September 2015 - 12:02 AM
don't forget that a scout actually is faster than hellfires and can literally outrun them.
mouse set up sensetively i find side stepping left angling my turtleback to my right elbow as hellfire comes, then boost rightalong with a lil tailwhip, vanguard can dodge hellfire quite well in turret mode
same for emps nless one piefaces me close up no worry the orbs i start unloading while emp makes sure i take out atleast one
Edited by MechFighter5e3bf9, 16 September 2015 - 12:03 AM.
#33
Posted 07 October 2015 - 02:52 PM
Bring back air dynamics and instagibbing A-classes with Hellfire/EOC/H.E. dunk pls.
The lead pigeon must return.
#34
Posted 07 October 2015 - 03:03 PM
#35
Posted 09 November 2015 - 02:12 PM
#36
Posted 09 November 2015 - 03:29 PM
#37
Posted 10 November 2015 - 03:04 PM
Amid your post was hilarious. A lot of it true but very funny. I love Rocketman even though it does suck for most. But don't forget the Rocketeer who could go up against Xacius in days of old. God could he dance that machine. :D MexichanMan was the king of Rocketeers. Remember the dual between him and Xacius? Awesome.
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#38
Posted 26 January 2016 - 09:25 PM
I know, old post but:
That's why I LOOOOVEEEE Ethe rocketeer! Pure sound pressure! hahahah :'D
I want to play with it now and fool around :D
Edited by Luaq, 26 January 2016 - 09:26 PM.
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#39
Posted 10 February 2016 - 02:43 PM
I like to lock on just to ring peoples bells. Spray seekers all over the place. Troll for complaints. Id rather be spreading the love in my tech tho.
#40
Posted 10 February 2016 - 10:54 PM
Amid your post was hilarious. A lot of it true but very funny. I love Rocketman even though it does suck for most. But don't forget the Rocketeer who could go up against Xacius in days of old. God could he dance that machine. :D MexichanMan was the king of Rocketeers. Remember the dual between him and Xacius? Awesome.
Yeah that time when rocketeer wasn't nerfed into the ground and heat cannon was hilariously OP. Yeah Rocketeer was pretty awesome back then. Even better was when hellfires and EOC were simultaneously OP.
Now the eoc rocketeer is literally the worst mech in the game. Heat rocketeer is so difficult to make viable and is overshadowed by pretty much anything else dps wise it isn't even worth mentioning in high tier play. Seeker rocketeer damage is so easy to avoided it is hilarious....
Interesting factoid though. According to a blurb in the Hawken Melee comics, there is information about the mechs in the game that were featured in the comic at the end, the seeker tracks better when hell fire lock is active. Even though the comics were made a long time ago, I think it might still be true.
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