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[SandSpider2]

The e3 announcement alone might end up giving us some new players who see it and get curious. That's good. The console release might bring some to pc, that's good too. And it sounds like eventually the pc version will be updated so it's up to par with the consoles.


Makes sense to focus on consoles first since, you know, that's what they've been working on for the past year or so. Pc version will be brought up to par eventually.


I swear I'm the most patient person on these entire forums lol

 

 

No, I am...............................lol

[nepacaka]

How i see a new patch.
1) Launch HWK on PS4
2) Acquire some babaji-credits
3) Put babaji-credit in PC version and fix incinerator and balance
4) merge PC players base and PS4
5) stomping tonnes of nubs which plays on gamepads with 30 fps and motion blur, mwaahahaha!!111

ok. i want to bielive hawken can be equal on PC/PS/Xb, and it can help earn some money for future updates.

Edited by nepacaka, 14 June 2016 - 03:32 AM.

[MomOw]

Most of the time cross plateform games have separate servers, because gamepad.

So I think/hope that it will also be the case for hawken.

 

still it's a great piece of information, no "great silence 2.0" but console port (why not).

 

I wish them good luck for their business, and I hope that good patches / game content will come "soon".

 

Side note to the devs : please don't create bulsh** gameplay that make the fanbase rage but work work "as intended". You can see a recent example of worst practice with how the devs / community managers did with "Tom Clancy : the division" which resulted in a loss of ~90% of steam players in 3 months.

(no dual A-class seeker  )

Edited by (KDR) MomOw, 14 June 2016 - 03:56 AM.

[SOD_CyberTormentor]

Console, really?

 

And where was committed to the players who have invested time and money in the version for PC, we do not deserve to update at the same time the consoles? this sounds like a huge lack of respect for all of us that we put up strong here, day after day, without a minimum communication of what would happen, probably because were already filing for initial version of the game, as a former player, I can not measure the size of my disappointment to see that the PC version was left aside as something that is there, just as a junkyard to take something for other platforms.

 

Summer 2016? hard to believe! 

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

All y'all with panties a-bunched:

 

They entered into a development agreement with 505.  That included non-disclosure terms.  The game engine and netcode (services-layer) were improved for all plaltforms.  The market was improved.  12 new mechs - even if they are rehashed current weapons. 

 

If they improved the services layer (packet compression, probably in-client and in-server performance, but that's speculation), one thing it'll do is throw hackers off for a while.  Another it should do is improve the experience on the servers.  And, just maybe, it'll be the point where they equalize console/PC gameplay.

 

I'm looking forward to DX11.  I bet the gameplay is smoother in Win10 at 144Hz.  I don't mind (too much) an a-class dual seeker rocketard (btw, remember what Xac said about Seeker back in the day?).  It'll all be new challenges, even if only for a little while.  It's the gameplay that hooked me, and as long as that's not effed-up... I'll play.

 

A whole vasty army of noobs to slay... yippee! 

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

And, for the love of God, Josh, when you introduce new mechs, ask us if they're balanced, and then fricking balance them.... and maybe make the stats db open to more of us (Ashfire?), we can do the regression analysis, too.

 

Case in point:  Incin. 

[SOD_CyberTormentor]

Just work in dam** balance, at least that...

[Hyginos]

Things I'm curious about:

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• Cross platform play was mentioned in another thread. Is that PS-Xbox cross platform or console-pc? Do you have something in place to deal with what might happen if you let a few hundred players with 4 years of experience and MKB into servers with console players who have never seen the game before?
• Aim assist on console? Will it remain on in cross play to PC if that ever happens?
• Pusher? Please?
• Are there significant balance changes in the works? How will balance be managed between console and PC? The obvious worry here is that balancing for one will muck up the other.
• Do the bug fixes impact any of the more obscure game mechanics such as dodge cancelling, wall climbing, boost-hopping?
• Do the bug fixes include fixing issues with the map geometry? Did you make the ground on origin flat? 
• Will the economy, starting mech, and leveling system stay the same? How about matchmaking?
• Will console players be able to purchase private servers?
• Will the infrastructure changes impact community tools such as scrimbot, the herokuapp, and the leader board?

EDIT:

 

Now that you have the opportunity to correct the fred dilemma with a new launch, what will happen to our old mascot?

Edited by Hyginos, 15 June 2016 - 01:00 PM.

[dorobo]

 

 

Edited by dorobo, 14 June 2016 - 04:52 AM.

[Neraste]

Thank you for your hard work, devs!

 

This isn't certainly what the current community wanted to happen, but it's still something and I'm positively sure it's better than nothing. At the end, it will be benefic the -good old- PC community, right? So, now the train is on the tracks, I hope it will be full steam ahead for its next stop.

 

Several good questions have been raised. I hope the devs will respond them. It's time to keep communicating, don't ya think?

[Amidatelion]

Following up on Hyginos' questions:

 

1. Given Hawken's current atrocious account security and the spectre of large videogame service hacks, what steps is Reloaded going to take to improve account security now that its footprint is going to (at least) triple?
2. Cheat detection/solutions when?
3. Spectator when?
4. Please take a look at Battleborn for what a terrible idea patch parity is. You've already gone through Microsoft and Sony's hoops, please reflect on the pointlessness and unfairness that artificially holding back PC patches because of console delays describes. I mean, if there's any community that will survive update delays it's this one, but why salt fertile ground?

Several good questions have been raised. I hope the devs will respond them. It's time to keep communicating, don't ya think?

 

[DallasCreeper]

Well, at least they're doing something. Whether we like it or not is probably at the back of their minds right now. 

[StubbornPuppet]

Didn't take long before I realized there was only one post in this topic that I should read.

 

Basically, let's no be so naive.  ReLoaded is a company.  A company's number one objective is to be profitable (at some point).  There was (and currently still is) no further profit to be made from the PC version of Hawken.

 

So, it should have surprised the hell out of everyone when anyone said they had purchased it and dedicated a development team to working on it... until they realized that Hawken could be ported to other markets/platforms.

 

Why on earth would ReLoaded prioritize work to the PC version when all it does is suck up resources and costs them money... with no profit or chance for profit coming in?  They wouldn't, because companies, even really dumb ones, can't stay in business without a plan to make money.

 

I think we should all count the PS4 and Xbone releases as a blessing, and hold them up high as the last hope for Hawken's salvation.  Unless Hawken flies on consoles, the PC version will wither and die as surely as it was already.  So, if you want Hawken PC to be updated, improved and have another three years of life, you better sing Hawkens praises to console players and get the interest in this game renewed with vigor.

 

Lady Tiggs, thank you for the post.

 

EDIT:  I had meant to say that success on the consoles WILL lead to more players/interest on the PC.  If it gets a good rep on console, some PC players who previously never knew about it or who left it long ago will find interest and join us.

Edited by StubbornPuppet, 14 June 2016 - 07:03 AM.

[dorobo]

Didn't take long before I realized there was only one post in this topic that I should read.

 

Basically, let's no be so naive.  ReLoaded is a company.  A company's number one objective is to be profitable (at some point).  There was (and currently still is) no further profit to be made from the PC version of Hawken.

 

So, it should have surprised the hell out of everyone when anyone said they had purchased it and dedicated a development team to working on it... until they realized that Hawken could be ported to other markets/platforms.

 

Why on earth would ReLoaded prioritize work to the PC version when all it does is suck up resources and costs them money... with no profit or chance for profit coming in?  They wouldn't, because companies, even really dumb ones, can't stay in business without a plan to make money.

 

I think we should all count the PS4 and Xbone releases as a blessing, and hold them up high as the last hope for Hawken's salvation.  Unless Hawken flies on consoles, the PC version will wither and die as surely as it was already.  So, if you want Hawken PC to be updated, improved and have another three years of life, you better sing Hawkens praises to console players and get the interest in this game renewed with vigor.

 

Lady Tiggs, thank you for the post.

 

[Bergwein]

I checked this forum almost every day for I don't even know how long. Nothing happened. Then for one weekend I get so wasted that I forget to and THIS HAPPENS.

 

Well that's actually rather nice.

[KarlSchlag]

STUFF IS HAPPENING :D

 

GOGO RELOADED!

 

I mean it!

[GMKGoat]

I've been expecting a console port since 2014. Nice that they finally got the resources together to do it. The broader playerbase should help financially. If they've got working restructured console builds then hopefully the new PC build will be made available soon. Getting all three versions online and up to date is the hard part. After that it's just keeping the content flowing.

[DallasCreeper]

I hope it'll be cross-platform so I don't have to smash the same old newbies all the time (as I in turn get smashed by the likes of HOHO, Crafty, Inci, hestoned and so many more that I don't want to mention, as I could make a thread out of it.)

[WmMoneyFrmMissouri]

You really wanna fight a group of trolling teenagers in duel seeker a classes in one of the 15 or so mechs we have atm

THE RAIDEROSITY is up for the task ! Guys, the sky is not falling. As pointed out by a few, you've been here crunching metal for years with basically no new content. What's a little longer? I doubt these changes won't eventually make it to us.

[Hijinks_The_Turtle]

No, I am...............................lol

Surely you jest, for it's probably me. xD

 

Anyway, glad to see Reloaded still alive.  I've got mixed feelings about this announcement but I cautiously smile with some shadowy semblance of hope.  Crossplatform sounds interesting, personally doubt it'll work out if this is the case.  Too much imbalance between console and PC controls, but with much practice, I'm sure some can succeed.  I sure as heck am not one of the pros and have definitely lost any skills I've had in playing Hawken, but I hope the PC side gets this content too at some point that may include possible new game modes to challenge skill perhaps?

 

Also, here's to hope that these new mechs are interesting.  We've unused chassis left and possible weapons that were left before the first Great Silence.  I hope at least some of those are among the 30 mechs or the 'many more to come'.  This shows that at least the art side of Reloaded hasn't been twiddling their thumbs as Capt and the others have been busy on the backend and UI stuff.

 

Lastly, I am quite sad to see Jay has died.  Many condolences to those close to this wonderful man who has been trying to fix Hawken's absurdly intensive UI.  Glad to see that the man has hope in Hawken, and I hope it lives to not just us players' expectations, but to the old dev team of Hawken and the late Jay.

Edited by h???????????????????jinks_the_turtle, 14 June 2016 - 09:28 AM.

[1uster]

Just imagine how great the PC game Hawken could be when they put that man power they used now for one freaking year to port the current state to consoles.

Just imagine.

[Tayloe]

Thanks for the udate and the timeline!

 

I think everyone who enjoys Hawken will be rooting for success on the consoles.

 

I just started playing in April of this year. I have put a decent amount of money into the game (purchased two bundles and meteor credits), and I feel that I have gotten plenty of value from my purchases already. I am looking forward to the possibility of new content, and hopefully a larger player base!

 

I was sorry to hear about the untimely loss of one of the developers.

 

 

 

 

[nepacaka]

I notice one thing on a new interface screenshots. please Reloaded... Don't do it. Just don't. 


p.s. yes. i'm start whining even before patch is coming xD

Edited by nepacaka, 14 June 2016 - 12:46 PM.

[StubbornPuppet]

^Oh yeah!  Another place to post my stupid Golden skin photoshop job.

 

[crockrocket]

Hawken Devs release an update...

Community still has a moan.

WTF Hawkeners. W T F

 

You know as well as all of us the crazy ride that it's been. Given that, it's hardly surprising that this update is being met with a healthy amount of scrutiny. I agree that it's good to finally hear all of this, but I'm not going to be happy personally until there is actual content added, PC side. Like someone else said, PC is only going to get updated if the console stuff succeeds.

[Broham78]

Good to hear some progress. This will create revenue and bring in new people. Business is business and PC will benefit by proxy. I really hope they start cranking out some new maps at some point. A hundred new mechs won't make up for lack of scenery.

[DallasCreeper]

I notice one thing on a new interface screenshots. please Reloaded... Don't do it. Just don't. 


p.s. yes. i'm start whining even before patch is coming xD

I want this, but it must be G2 Raider EXCLUSIVE!

[phed]

Finally I'll have a use for my xbox1... but will I have to start a new account?

Will the playerbase be integrated between platforms?

[BlackWarGreymon]

I'm guessing there won't be cross-platform servers, if NEW Hawken for console peasants will be released before New Hawken for the Glorious PC gaming master race. Not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing, depends how you view it.

 

Pro-tip though; fracking advertise! The old devs crashed and burned because they didn't bother advertising- they relied on word-of-mouth and voodoo magic, expecting the game to somehow gather a massive following, without telling anyone it even existed pretty much.

 

Advertise. Trust me...

[Hyginos]

Advertise. Trust me...

They put in an ad at E3. They know.

[OmegaNull]

So, because apparently a lot of people here in the community are salty (which is understandable) I am going to put my own two since here. 

 

First off, going to other platforms is not a bad thing. The fact that Xbox One and PS4 support Cross Play with PC is not a bad thing. Actually, you will be surprised at how skilled someone can get with a controller. 

 

Anyways, this is actually good in a lot of sense. What I see here is one thing: Resolution of previous tech debt. Furthermore, what i also see is the fact that the game had been ported to DX11. Do you know how much better pipelining DX11 has compared to DX9? Do you know what that means? Better performance plain and simple. Furthermore, they had to do a lot of recompiling, updating servers, server-to-server and services in general to ready everything for consoles. Guess what boys and girls, that means it allows them to get even more intimate with the code, find more issues, get feedback on things that are console only (which, btw, modern consoles are PCs you know). This would mean the CODE portion would spill over to the PC side of things regardless of what they do. 

 

You guys did see that they were getting things ready so everything would be in lock-step right? That means updates would come across ALL platforms, not just PC. Furthermore, it was announced at E3. You know what that means? New players. Do you know what new players mean? Growth. All you neighsayers can fuzzy bunny and whine all you want, but from my stand point this would open this game up to a MUCH larger audience. How many people actually own a PC that can play a game halfway decent? Not a lot I can tell you that. How many people play console? A LOT.

 

Most people want to just launch a game and play. The fact that reloaded went through all this effort is because they are serious about the game. They are serious about us. Drop your shitshow at the door people and open your minds. This is a huge opportunity. Something that the previous devs missed and messed up. They barely advertised. Since Reloaded is already a INCOME and has their "priorities" clearly defined (though not in the direction many of us want them, though that is not necessarily a bad thing)  means a lot. The other fact that they have allied themselves with 505 Games is HUGE! Since when have any of you heard anything bad about those guys. I sure in the hell haven't. 

 

Sum it all up, all I see here is huge potential for growth. Something that has been sorely lacking with Hawken for a long time. So, all of you whining, short-sighted scrubs get up, poke your head out and smell the roses. Things are going to start looking lively around here before long. 

[DieselCat]

Hope they don't forget about getting a working VOIP for all platforms (really need to hear those whiny pubescent teenagers) ....

But really...some form of ingame voice chat that works would be nice.

[6ixxer]

So, because apparently a lot of people here in the community are salty (which is understandable) I am going to put my own two since here. 
 
First off, going to other platforms is not a bad thing. The fact that Xbox One and PS4 support Cross Play with PC is not a bad thing. Actually, you will be surprised at how skilled someone can get with a controller. 
 
Anyways, this is actually good in a lot of sense. What I see here is one thing: Resolution of previous tech debt. Furthermore, what i also see is the fact that the game had been ported to DX11. Do you know how much better pipelining DX11 has compared to DX9? Do you know what that means? Better performance plain and simple. Furthermore, they had to do a lot of recompiling, updating servers, server-to-server and services in general to ready everything for consoles. Guess what boys and girls, that means it allows them to get even more intimate with the code, find more issues, get feedback on things that are console only (which, btw, modern consoles are PCs you know). This would mean the CODE portion would spill over to the PC side of things regardless of what they do. 
 
You guys did see that they were getting things ready so everything would be in lock-step right? That means updates would come across ALL platforms, not just PC. Furthermore, it was announced at E3. You know what that means? New players. Do you know what new players mean? Growth. All you neighsayers can fuzzy bunny and whine all you want, but from my stand point this would open this game up to a MUCH larger audience. How many people actually own a PC that can play a game halfway decent? Not a lot I can tell you that. How many people play console? A LOT.
 
Most people want to just launch a game and play. The fact that reloaded went through all this effort is because they are serious about the game. They are serious about us. Drop your shitshow at the door people and open your minds. This is a huge opportunity. Something that the previous devs missed and messed up. They barely advertised. Since Reloaded is already a INCOME and has their "priorities" clearly defined (though not in the direction many of us want them, though that is not necessarily a bad thing)  means a lot. The other fact that they have allied themselves with 505 Games is HUGE! Since when have any of you heard anything bad about those guys. I sure in the hell haven't. 
 
Sum it all up, all I see here is huge potential for growth. Something that has been sorely lacking with Hawken for a long time. So, all of you whining, short-sighted scrubs get up, poke your head out and smell the roses. Things are going to start looking lively around here before long.

Read it twice people...

[ArchMech]

good news everybody! from the horses mouth say hawken future is bright cross platform is "planned" in a future update with a tenative "maybe" in regards to a question stated: "so maybe summer 2017 or christmas 2017?" this is a "maybe!"

 

is very good news all in all this update, any developmental work that applied to a game available on a single platform is lacking in all regards, this change allows all development to matter threefold and the relative cost of effort is no higher then it was before! that is AFTER the three platforms are synced and that is coming HERE IN SUMMER 2016! as long as the promise of big news in 2016 is fulfilled, i would have naysayers and over-speculators shut their traps!

 

in regards to that double seeker A mech, well what the fuzzy bunny ever that was probably a concept that ADH half started ANYWAY and its all good fun anyway!

 

listen to archie when i say fret not, hawken will compete with overwatch for playerbase it'll be awesome!

Edited by aFKingTroll, 14 June 2016 - 07:38 PM.

[6ixxer]

they were working on vivox. I recall them saying it was going well.

[chuiu]

So does this mean we're not getting hats?

[ARCH3TYP3]

My initial read filled me with nervous energy as well as some anxiety over an apparent lack of attention to the PC version. But, after reading it a second time, particularly the "Summer 2016" section, I am hopeful. Optimistic, even. Thanks for the update.
Keep 'em coming.

[Csabi333]

What is the exact console release date? And for when do we need to expect a pc version change?

[Amidatelion]

What is the exact console release date? And for when do we need to expect a pc version change?

 

 

Details? Things that we could hold them to? Reloaded trades not in these things.

[hellc9943]

What is the exact console release date? And for when do we need to expect a pc version change?

2016.