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[BIsmuthZornisse]

What will the mechs using the nief and charge chassis be called or will they just use their chassis names?

 

Your game guide doesnt list the incinerator, is it gone forever or will it be reintroduced later?

Will those who already have the incinerator keep it, like with the 3-primary-weapons mechs?

 

Have you made changes to the portable scanner, like decrease its duration?

[MomOw]

I give them a chance to try to do things right.

 

But I do agree with elements such as "vertical progression" and being able to keep my hawkins brawler, vulcan no-turret grenadier, and AR/TOW salt.

 

sorry if I repeat myself but old mech should not being allowed in normal pub.

 

and vertical progression should not imply grinding for "better" mech, but grinding for variety and for mechs that requires more skill as it is now (more or less).

 

For example : a reflak raider is a good "G1" and the T32 raider is a good "G2".

Edited by (KDR) MomOw, 19 June 2016 - 05:01 AM.

[Siamenis]

Are there any plans to improve the sound? Like giving more "punch" for example to AR which currently doesn't give the impression of firing a large weapon. Firing Hellfires sounds currently more like letting of steam than firing a swarm of rockets, and the SA Hawkins is probably the worst sounding weapon in the entire game.

 

Basically, the clicks and grinds when I charge the Heat, the sonic boom of KE Sabot.., that's what I mean and desire. Give them a feeling of weight and mechanical notion. These are big weapons, but they just don't sound like it.

[dorobo]

It seems we'll just have to wait and see how it will pan out. I doubt commenting here will change anything at this point considering they showed it on E3 and all..

 

Maybe we could sell those unique accounts we have?

[EMEUTIER]

A few of us who have been with Hawken for quite some time now actually have duplicates of each mech class, I honestly cant remember what caused this in the first place but can we PLEASE have the option to SELL our mech's?

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

A few of us who have been with Hawken for quite some time now actually have duplicates of each mech class, I honestly cant remember what caused this in the first place but can we PLEASE have the option to SELL our mech's?

 

Test-drive mechs used to stay in your garage.

[Nept]

Things look shaky for TPG S4

 

The only reason we've not launched TPG S4 is the lack of teams.  Currently we have Axe Attack, The Automatic Mustangs, 2-3 Trentik Defense Militia teams, and The Hawken Collective.  You want S4?  Get us another couple teams.  We'll run the thing regardless of whatever design decisions Reloaded makes.

Edited by Nept: Ultra Lord of the God-Kings, 19 June 2016 - 06:44 AM.

[KOS_Baconman]

Did anyone realize that once skill trees (which for the record, I dont support) get implemented, smurfs are going to have less of an advantage because there will be a start up period due to lack of skill points.

[Miscellaneous]

Did anyone realize that once skill trees (which for the record, I dont support) get implemented, smurfs are going to have less of an advantage because there will be a start up period due to lack of skill points.

 

Therefore, they'll go back to their main accounts where they DO have that advantage, and stomp in exactly the same matches. It's a never ending cycle due to the small playerbase.

[HugeGuts]

In retrospect it may have been better to publicly pull in more of the vets, get the NDA, explain as much of the business side, design side, and engineering constraints, and then work out the best path forward.

 

Let's keep talking; I don't consider this topic dead.

 

Sounds like it would be a very one sided conversation. I don't see any part before "work out the best path forward" where it says you actually listen to your customers. "You think you want how Hawken used to be, but you don't" is how I imagine that meeting would go. Reminds of Blizzard and their disgraceful response to the highly demanded legacy servers people were more than willing to pay for.

Edited by HugeGuts, 19 June 2016 - 07:59 AM.

[TheFrostnessMonster]

I'm divided on this.  It could have been better, but it could have been much, much worse.  The only way to find out now it to get our hands on it.

 

Keep up the hard work guys.

[_incitatus]

G2 exception also abolished 

 

OG-G2 Exception established...

[DerMax]

Question: what primary will the Infiltrator have?

[MomOw]

Question: what primary will the Infiltrator have?

 

https://www.playhawk...chs/infiltrator

 

It seems that it's EOC repeater

[DerMax]

https://www.playhawk...chs/infiltrator

 

It seems that it's EOC repeater

But I will keep my HEAT cannon, because I am a vet, right?

[crockrocket]

So we're getting a lot of new mechs. From a lore standpoint will this finally mean the inclusion of one of the other megacorps (Crion)? Is there any talk of an associated bundle being made available?

Edited by (TDM)crockrocket, 19 June 2016 - 09:25 AM.

[WmMoneyFrmMissouri]

https://www.playhawk...chs/infiltrator

It seems that it's EOC repeater

Seems the devs got this one right since that's THE ALMIGHTY load out. THE MYSTERIES OF THE BLINKING RED LIGHT SHALL CONTINUE IN 2016 !!

[Bergwein]

The Grenadier can now be obliterated with ease by any pilot who is able to press spacebar.

 

gg

 

Spoiler

I don't suppose the air speeds have been reduced, right?

[SandSpider2]

I have a question about an aspect of game lore. Don't worry,  I know that this isn't very important compared to all the other things that are going on.

 

when I joined this game, I wasn't aware that the mechs were called Axe's. I would read posts on the forums that talked about that name and didn't know what people meant. It wasn't until I read the graphic novel that I found out what was going on. 

 

I think if mechs were marketed as Axe's more and we were referred to as Axe pilots in game, it would help make the game more individual and help to set it apart from other games and give a bit more immersion.

 

Below, an excerpt from  Hawken Universe Bible / HUB

 

AXE

A colloquial term for a weaponized mech. What the initials are actually an acronym for is debated among pilots.

 

Below, an excerpt from  An Interview With Laila.

 

CJ. I notice that you call the mechs Axes, why is that?

Laila. Well, that's a simple one. You see, a mech is what we use for everyday things like heavy lifting, transporting things, mining work and construction. An Axe however, is armoured and carries weapons. Axes are only used for one thing and that is fighting.

CJ. I see, I had no idea that there was a difference like that. I just thought that a mech was a mech.

[hestoned]

how do i cant even what

 

my gren ;_;

[Miscellaneous]

how do i cant even what

 

my gren ;_;

 

Yours will stay exactly as-is, maybe some HP tweaks etc. Only new grens will have the limited weapons, etc.

 

I think.

[Hyginos]

Old mech should not be accessible in "normal games", but rather in private servers with "mod" or special "playground" servers.

Otherwise it could ruin the balance the new dev team will try to set-up.

 

If the one weapon per mech thing must go through, this might be the best solution to legacy mechs.

 

Now that I'm reading through this again, this reeks of corporate involvement. My impression of CapnJosh from the early dev interviews was someone who was reasonably aware of what kind of balance and economy things we were looking for, so I'm starting to think the dev team might be under duress. You folks OK over there? Blink once for torture and twice for hostage loved ones.

Edited by Hyginos, 19 June 2016 - 10:24 AM.

[nepacaka]

I have a mixed feelings of disappointment and joy.

I am glad that the game is moving and it is possible a good changes for future players. but the more the game is changed, the less "HA?KEN" remains in it. with each new remake/patch Hawken turns into an ordinary shooter game more and more...

[ArchMech]

much to discuss, all in all i like the angle your taking on this but obvious holes in the plan are obvious

 

ultimately i keep writing and storing paragraphs since that Q&A post but i keep getting mired in talking about purely speculatory theorys regarding business, legal, press, advertising, ownership, and contractual crap like the number of contracts RLD 505 and e3 had EACH OTHER SIGN, regarding all of this, and what those contracts entailed. very complex and convoluted stuff, more paperwork then i dare to imagine, but already did for unfortunately. theres more im sure, call it "ways of going about things".

 

anyway now we are here at this stage of things and the e3 portion is done so the limitation on scope of nda inclusion and quanity of nda inclusions, and scope of discussion outside of nda, as well as likely PARTIAL limitation on community involvement is done with (it is still after all THEIR project, not ours)

 

i wont go into all of why it had to be this way up till after e3 cuz its really annoying, for more reasons then i care to say we could have no or almost no involvement in the process, and nothing could be leaked, because if everyone leaked the details of what they'd display at e3, then nobody would go to e3, 505 and RLD needed to do all the heavy lifting and reap all the credit throughout the process because they are the owner(s)/producer(s)/developers, and we are just "community input" after all.

 

that is up till this point anyway, after this they already did enough work to say safely its in their hands going forward, and from here on they accept more in depth community input and involvement, create and develop things based on received input, and further the business that is hawken/howken.

 

still just speculation

 

yes i did actually make some paragraphs and then scrap it:

Spoiler

to long not even finished i read it and didnt even like it myself and i wrote it! but the topic is a pain in the asssssss!

Spoiler

to much data, to many queries, to much all at once and thats the problem with this >.< to bad it was necessary
 
First let me say that this is a bad way of doing things, sort of, so let me finish, really blame goes to the necessity of it all, the business teams, the press teams, the legal teams, contracts, NDA's, not that any of this is particularly good for society to progress and evolve, but it has its moments, this is one of them. 
     Complex stuff went on i see regarding the partnership between 505 and RLD (and likely the e3 expo whatever management title they give themselves...whatever.... ) on a huge project to a fan favorite title with an E3 expo, in case people keep forgetting, e3 is pretty damn influential but if you are numb to it their is nothing i can do for you.
     RLD and 505 looking to make a successful (appealing) appeal to the hawken deprived masses through howken@e3 without catastrophic business shattering leaks or the peanut gallery that is hawken community chiming in every step of the way and potentially turning away parts of the new generation player base, and e3 looking to make sure nothing new thats going to be displayed at the expo is going to be leaked, because if every1 leaked everything that'd be at the expo, nobody would go to the expo.
anyway you already got hindsight 20-20 and posted the below quote
 

In retrospect it may have been better to publicly pull in more of the vets, get the NDA, explain as much of the business side, design side, and engineering constraints, and then work out the best path forward.

 
so to move past that, "e3 is over now" i imagine that was the biggest constraining factor,  making e3 a success less for you're own success, it'd limit the number of current/active hawken community members that can be brought in under nda, it'd vastly limit the scope of topics of discussion outside NDA

 

[DallasCreeper]

Crafty's gonna get even more hackusations with twice the Rev-GL.

[ArchMech]

now to move past those speculations:

 

they seem to have a good handle on separating hawken from howken, so what should likely be aimed for is a differentiation between howken mechs and hawken mechs within public game modes, for simplicity you can call it TDM HAWKEN and TDM HOWKEN

 

where hawken will call "compacted variety mech variants", mechs with 3 primaries each, and howken with 30 mechs at 1 primary apiece will be "expanded variety mech variants", private servers will see functionality towards being able to differentiate OR blend the 2? and maybe in time we can fashion a quality blended version that we can introduce some public servers with this blended version

 

theres likely other differences between hawken and howken that could possibly be preserved or is already being preserved, that could come with further customization towards blending or preserving the natural difference

[Flifang]

I'm extremely satisfied. Thank you Tiggs, Josh, and everyone else working on this project. I greatly appreciate all that you've done.

[claisolais]

Tiggs&Josh:

 

Can you guys confirm that you guys are going to remove mech head chassis customization (like a CRT head ss)?

 

And primary weapon options? It seems you guys haven't said anything like "We WILL do that."

 

And, are we get to keep our purchased mech head chassis? Can you guys confirm?

Seriously if I spend 200 bucks in order to have them all available on all of my mechs, and you guys suddenly decided not to do so, I will ask for my dollars back!

 

 

And if our old mechs cant access to all game modes, it equals to not allowing me to keep my purchased customizations/weapons, pls be SPECIFIC.

 

We dont purchase those customization to build a museum.

 

 

***One more question**, the trailer, the ss does not have Ord's foot chassis yet having Ord series on other part, does it means some other parts chassis are unique like head chassis?

Edited by claisolais, 19 June 2016 - 01:46 PM.

[Hijinks_The_Turtle]

I'm glad to see you guys open up to more questions.  Hopefully we'll be able to see more things on the lore of Hawken.  Other than that, I'm a tad bit concerned on G2 mechs having more advantages to the regular versions of the mechs.  This is straight up going to be a problem if people are going to be able to purchase these things with premium currency.  Hawken had problems because people assumed the game was P2W.  Having mechs that are overall better than others is not going dampen that.

 

Also, the 'legacy mechs' might become a problem due to their far more versatile weapon set than their more limited cousins.  When paired up with different variations, a T32 Pred is a decent good bursty assassin, a Breacher Pred is able to harass at long ranges and can deal massive damage with an uncharged shot up close, and the Dual EOC Pred makes mines for days.  This is just one of those mechs, if legacy mechs are able to play in the field with the normies, then this could cause some form of outcry just because of the sheer versatility of them.

[ArchMech]

 

And if our old mechs cant access to all game modes, it equals to not allow us to keep our purchased customizations/weapons, pls be SPECIFIC.

 

 

 

 

noted and dismissed on general principle,

your self interests do not out weigh the games interest in self preservation and continuation,

 

"it equals to not allow us" is grounds for dismissal in and of itself

 

if you disagree with the idea of keeping both Hawken and Howken environments, and continuing to sell Hawken mechs for the Hawken based environment, using only your comment that i quoted as justification, you are fooling only yourself

Edited by ArchMech@Twitch.tv/ArcanicFlame, 19 June 2016 - 12:36 PM.

[DingdongJR]

Guys, I know this is kinda out of place, but I would like to ask a new question, if the Devs are reading this anyway. Could you please use more of the existing HAWKEN Music tracks in game? Just listening to all these awesome tracks that never got used, it feels like such a waste. These are some of the most badass music tracks I've heard in a while from a game, and totally fit this game to a T. 

 

[Anichkov3]

As has already been asked before - "What will the mechs using the nief and charge chassis be called or will they just use their chassis names?"

 

I propose to call the Nief = Nephilim

I propose to call the Charge = CharLi

[WillyW]

" Existing purchases, however, will remain available to be equipped."

 

You might want to consider the option of selling off some of your fully-leveled smurf accounts. I mean, the amount of time you spent should be worth something, considering that new players wont have access to any of it. You'll be a like the drug dealer for smurf accounts. YOU GOT THE STUFF DOOD?

Edited by WillyW, 19 June 2016 - 01:03 PM.

[claisolais]

noted and dismissed on general principle,

your self interests do not out weigh the games interest in self preservation and continuation,

 

"it equals to not allow us" is grounds for dismissal in and of itself

 

if you disagree with the idea of keeping both Hawken and Howken environments, and continuing to sell Hawken mechs for the Hawken based environment, using only your comment that i quoted as justification, you are fooling only yourself

My fuzzing point was to make sure them being SPECIFIC.

 

Allowing us to have our mechs, I might purchase $200 worth of MCs to keep my customization options. And if those mechs can only be in a "Legacy mode" or being banned from general matches--which could just end up like you said, but in a different way: Hawken being what it is now, NO updates; And new Howken for everything new.

Well, donno if you're implying this or something different, but I gotta admit that I don't like this way, VERY.    Hawken I've signed for was long gone.

 

If you don't like the word that might trying to represent the general public, just say that ALONE.

But note that I'm not representing we pilots (My English problem, maybe), and I'm actually trying not to be fooled by dev's words (Cos those words might be misleading). 

 

I'll change my words, and that's it, I dont give a fuzzy bunny how you think that equal or not, I'm after for my answers, and those answers might answer someone else's question, but not my business.

 

Thanks for telling me my wording mistake. Take care now.

[Onebullit]

 

I propose to call the Charge = CharLi

Also,

 

We can give Charlie the Tri-Seeker and call the weapon Charlie's Angels

 

Edited by Onebullit, 19 June 2016 - 01:57 PM.

[DemitronPrime]

again....

people pour salt on my wounds....

 

i do not WANT a dual rev Gren thank you.... you have henceforth created the most useless spray and pray carpet bomber of hawken history....

 

as stated above,

 

how do i cant even what

 

my gren ;_;

 

i feel you man... I really Do

[Flifang]

Also,

 

We can give Charlie the Tri-Seeker and call the weapon Charlie's Angels

 

Ironic an angel spewing something akin to hellfire

[Onebullit]

Angels do that all the time, what are you talking about.

[Call_Me_Ishmael]

You might want to consider the option of selling off some of your fully-leveled smurf accounts. I mean, the amount of time you spent should be worth something, considering that new players wont have access to any of it. You'll be a like the drug dealer for smurf accounts. YOU GOT THE STUFF DOOD?

 

Except this is against the TOS. 

 

I probably have as many, give or take an order of magnitude, as Crafty.  I wouldn't even consider this.  Even if you meant it as humor.

[DeeRax]

again....

people pour salt on my wounds....

 

i do not WANT a dual rev Gren thank you.... you have henceforth created the most useless spray and pray carpet bomber of hawken history....

 

as stated above,

 

 

i feel you man... I really Do

JFC, it's been stated multiple times that any mech you bought before the new changes will remain the same. Our grens that we already have will remain the same. OUR GRENS WILL BE FINE AND HEALTHY.

Actually read, folks.